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How Long Gone is here. Today is Sunday. You're listening to this on Monday. We're really going to get into it now. My life partner is out walking around the reservoir with her friend and being the dog. Margo, the old dog is here in the room with us. In case Margo gets to bark in, I could kick her. There's another old dog in the house. My name is Chris Black. I've made the trek. Go dogs. I've made the trek. Hopefully Georgia's going to win today. Go dogs. It's actually on Monday. Yeah, today. We're in the How Long Gone Bat Cave in Glendale. Jason is burning a curious candle from our friends over at the Cash App. Yeah, this candle, I pulled it out of my cash stash. No, literally, it says if you burn, you're supposed to burn this candle all the way through, and then you find a hidden stash. So I'm assuming there's, I don't know, a roll of 50s at the bottom of this candle. Wow, okay. Even though Cash App is... It's a cashless system, ironically. It would be nice if there was some cold hard cash in there. I think there could be a nice QR code for Bitcoin that they probably should rethink now if that candle's still being distributed. I'd hate a waxy QR code. This is interesting because if it was me and I knew there was money in the bottom of it, I would pull out my Dyson hairdryer and get that thing fucking melted down quick. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? So you're like, fire, not enough. I need to hit it with that dye dye. Actually, you could. Yeah, you could hit it with the meth torch. The kitchen torch. Well, I want to preserve the QR code if there is money in there, so I'll probably sous vide it. Maybe $175 for $45, and then I'll kind of check on it there. I did get this new kettle. It's pretty amazing. I did. How dialed in you can get with the temperature. But the candle smells... Okay, can you guess the smells? Did you read the label? No cheaties. I didn't read the label. All right, there's four scents here. One of them starts with Elon. You're going to have to name the other one. This candle feels like... Like an attempt at Target doing something high-end. Don't come for cash. You like that. I love cash, but this is... All right, the first smell. Top note. Blank rose. She dated 21 Savage. Amber. Ding, ding. Second one. It's a type of wood that you would roast some salmon upon. What? Cedar. Oh, oh, oh. I don't... Sorry, my salmon is not usually cedar planked.

What does that mean? I'm saying I'm broke, bro. I'm saying I need to get my money up. I've never liked the idea of a cedar roasted salmon. It just seems odd. Well, I don't want my salmon to taste like a sauna, but I guess some people do. Yeah, there's like that hip-hop song, and the chicken tastes like wood. Why did you just go into early days hip-hop mode? Because that's the song. It's like hip-hop. And one of the lines is... Not Five Elements, Jason, coming out again. No, this is like 1983. Okay, this is Cool Herc. Yeah, it was something, something. It was something about how Big Mama is messing it up in the kitchen and she's doing so bad at the food because the chicken tastes like wood. Oh, okay, he's not saying it. And I'm assuming it's both in texture as well as flavor. Oh, I see. Because today if I heard chicken tastes like wood, I would think someone was, you know. smoking using their big green egg or something, and it was a positive. Right. But tasting like wood is never a positive. That's something I can't get fucked up on that. You want it to be impregnated with the essence of wood? Mm-hmm. Not to be beaten over the head. Of course. By a plank itself. We need to be subtle, of course. The next one, of course, is leather and then musk. I don't want to... Well, those are in every candle, but yeah, I just don't like... I don't... I have to be honest, but... Break it down. I just don't love a free candle unless it's from one of my purveyors. I don't think I've ever received a free candle that I liked if it wasn't one I already liked. You know what I'm saying? It's very giving. I don't want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member. I just mean there's three or four candles that I really like. one of those then i'm very happy to accept that as a gift from a friend or family but if it's from a brand and they're trying to do their own thing it's usually not going to match the excellence of these approved scents you know they say that you appreciate and you enjoy things more when you pay for them yourself with your own money versus being gifted them and you you do enjoy do you enjoy a candle more knowing that you swiped your your chase debit over there

I don't use Chase, but yeah, I mean, I think that the... Maybe another bank. I think, no, I mean... Or even a credit card. Maybe, but also, no, I think it's just like... Are you more precious with it? Like, for me, if I have a free candle, I'm just like, I wake up, I light that hoe before I even make my coffee. I'm just like, fuck it. This is all just icing on the cake. No, I do that with all... No, no, no. But if I were to ever buy a candle, which I've never done before, unless it was a gift for somebody else, I would be very ceremonial with it. No, no, no. You have to, if you're really living a scented... I'd lick that wick. a scented lifestyle You buy the Byredo wick trimmer, which is like a nice, long pair of perfectly engineered scissors. Bro, if you got one of those in your house, you're gay. No, I'm kidding. You can't have a wick trimmer. Wick trimmer is too far. I wouldn't even do that. I just use regular scissors. But a lot of wicks aren't. Even using scissors. A grown man, I use my fingertips. Do my tips get sooty? You're darn right they do. No, that's just. Put a little hair on your chest, boy. No, that's like Cro-Magnum man shit. There's no way. I'm going to take out my beautiful orange-handled Fiskars, the best scissors in the game. I'm going to do a little snip-snip. Your Hermes Fiskars. I'm going to do a little snip-snip to the Byredo, and it's going to burn evenly. We want an even burn. I think people aren't doing it right. We want an even burn. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Well, here's the thing, bro. Let me tell you just real quick. I'm glad we're talking scents because I'm in the scent zone. When you're lighting a candle for the first time, you have to let it burn to the entire outside edge of the vessel so that the burn stays even. Yeah, so that the burn... The burn stays even until the end. And people aren't doing that. People are lighting it for a couple hours, and then you get a little kind of a burned cylinder with a lot of wasted wax on the outer rim. Yeah, you get the pyramid. Yeah. I want my upper body to look like a pyramid. I do not want my Japanese amber to look like a pyramid. Don't cry over wasted wax. But it's just something to think about, because I think we're spending $80, $100 on these candles. If you're not going to burn it right, then...

you're flushing my what's the bloody point yeah why why buy a lambo if you're not going to change the oil 100 that's a great thank you another metaphor from tj appreciate why put the 4g's on it if you're not going to keep your tire pressure at the approved amount no you're right you're right i don't want yeah i i just think it's something that that we don't talk about enough really so i'm glad that we at how long gone of course it's like once again bring something from the dark into the light That's a good candle metaphor as well. I'm trying to keep up with you. Damn, the candle visibility when the power goes out. Well, the power's going to go out this week. And you've got to go candle mode. This cyclone bomb continues, and we're back to rain in L.A., and I'm a little worried that I'm out here. Your yard's looking crazy, bro. It's not your fault. It's God's fault. But I'm just saying to you, like, I couldn't even. It feels like the tar pits out there. I don't know what to do. Well, Frank hit it with the manure. that's why it looks kind of like d-day out there that's funny that you say that because as i was approaching your beautiful home i was like smelling like some onions in this house this smells bad but i was like well they have dogs so oh come on bro i mean it just it would make sense that's how non that's a white collar crime you are you don't even know a lawn treatment No, you're right. I know that lawn treatments are something that people do. Well, that people pay someone to do. It's preventative care. It's not unlike your little wick snipping. Oh, I see. Okay, so you laying down horse shit in your yard is the same. I'm looking at spring, summer 23, and you're still in 2000 and late. Okay, I understand. Damn. Some of the bigger houses have to plan years in advance. Actually, that's something I've noticed about our landscaping. Mentally right now, I'm Resort 25. If you want to live like that, I don't know if you can handle it. I can't. I'm a more live-in-the-moment, experience-things-as-they-happen guy. There's downsides to that, too. I don't disagree. That's cute for you. There's boutiques and stuff like that. When the landscaper came into all that stuff at our house, he's like,

look like people get really impatient. They think this shit's going to blue. This takes a year for this stuff to really get going. And I'm seeing results. It's looking good. It's looking lush. It's looking like the, the Cotswolds retreat. That was the inspiration, but I'm worried that this rain, the pheasant are gathering. Yes. Yes. I'm, I'm yeah. If you want to come over, I, we, we can go shooting later. We'll start with clays and then kind of move into. Yeah. Cause the dogs have been wanting to get out there. I'm sure Margot's a great goose catcher. Goose catcher? But the rain, this level of rain, I feel like it could OD. It's got me in my James Blake bag right now. Album one. I can't listen to James Blake. He's truly ruined his life. The way people can't listen to Morrissey, I can't listen to James Blake because he's so lame. Because he's wearing pleats, please, head to toe, and dating that chick. I just can't take it. How the mighty have fallen. This is what happened. Not every good British musician, stay over there. Don't come to L.A. You're right. L.A. will ruin you. And I'm allowed to say that because I'm L.A. No, that's actually a great point. Pro listeners at home, I'm throwing my L.A. hand side up right now. He's throwing his lot up. He's got the lot. Yeah, I think you make a good point. But James Blake was really, you really loved that shit. The first James Blake album. Classic. It came out, I remember, I'll always remember it because I was in a breakup. And it was raining way more than it was this year. It was literally like two weeks straight. Torrential downpour. It was gloomy as. Oh, no. A bit dreary over at Atwater. You were in Gatwater in that house alone listening to James Blake? I had just moved into that house. Oh, wow. Okay, this is a throwback. And I remember I was painting. Hold on, hold on. It was New Year's Eve. You painted a house yourself? Yeah, okay. Multiple times. I believe it. It was interior. You can get the corner size. It's good to paint your house interior in the rain because it retards the drying process, which gets you a more even coverage and a better coat. You always want to retard the process. And I remember that album came out. I was in a breakup zone, solo in the house, painting it.

And then I just had that on repeat, and I was just probably smoking parliaments. I guess for some reason, James Blake, to me, it feels like... But the first album was a classic, and then it just started going... But it feels like it came out... I don't know if this is even true, but in my mind, it's like Bon Iver and James Blake were kind of at the same time, and I went Bon Iver instead of James Blake, as far as classic first sad album. Classic Chris, you felt like you had to choose one of the two. I'm over here like a tortilla commercial saying, why can't we have both? No, it's fine. I just don't have any, like, I don't think of James Blake. Like, I wouldn't put that on. Whereas, like, Bon Iver, I'll still put on because he slaps. Look, they both lost the plot for me. I'm not really going to check for either of them. Yeah, but I like that Bon Iver is just like, yeah, I bought a compound in Wisconsin and I look like shit. like i'm good i'm addicted to psilocybin like i i got slaps and i hang out with other cool old guys from bands that are popular whereas james blake is like i'm at the um grammy gifting suite with jamilla and we just noticed that actually like some of this stuff in here is not sustainable and i think it's triggering to jim we need to talk about this i wonder because a fellow podcaster and comedian neil brennan he's like best friends with both of them and that's sort of like what Yeah, they're like best besties. Bro, that is... The Brennan fall from grace is unfortunate. Yeah, man. I mean... I love him. He was so funny. We all have that friend where they're like, why are you hanging out there? That podcast, though, the Neil Brennan... When he had the podcast, that was like... I was like, oh, this is... That made me consider the medium. Which podcast? The first one. His first one? Yeah. Where it was him and another person and they only had... Black people on. Yeah, yeah. And it was just so good and so funny. And that three mics thing was really good. A simpler time. A simpler time. Yeah, every time you watch or listen to things that were just, you know, eight years ago. You were talking about The Office last night with Andrew's parents. Even if you just watched an episode of The Office from eight years ago, you're like, this is terribly toxic right now.

Toxic is not something I would say. I think maybe some of the jokes would not make it in the same way. There's a lot. I mean, I'm not saying that. I mean, obviously, I could handle it, and everyone else in the world can handle it. But it wasn't even. When I look at it with my fresh woke eyes, my 2023 eyes. Of course. Your Greta eyes. Yeah, my Greta eyes. All these alarms are going off. I don't think that, but the best part about that is that The Office was considered, like, network television, not edgy at all. You watch that, you watch Modern Family, you watch any of these, like, network sitcoms. There's, like, there's some pretty fucked up shit in there. Yeah, you're right. And it's, I mean, The Office, there's a couple true banger classics of, like, oh, wow, this is. I mean, it makes you feel bad for gay people. Gay people really used to get it. Like eight years ago. Oscar got it. Yeah, it's tough. That's true. I didn't even think about that. Let's move on from that. I want to go back to scent because it's something that's on my mind right now. Great. What? You don't like scent? No, I love scent. I'm an expert. This is why I'm so lucky to have you in my man cave. Let me pop open a liquid D. It's cool because this is a classic man cave. It's got the Red Bull mini fridge. It's got the 78-inch TV with the Red Zone package. It's got a leather couch. Don't touch my fucking controller. But it doesn't really smell like feet or nuts. So I feel like you're elevated. The only time it do be smelling like feet and nuts is when the sauna is going. But whenever I have company over, I have a wicker basket where I discard all of my spent sauna towels. And if you catch me on a bad week, it can be stank in here. It can be fragrant. It can be ripe. So when you come over, I go and I put the basket somewhere else. I want to get to a point, and this is something maybe to think for your 2023 goals, like kind of pushing yourself. Just thinking like...

You know, this space should be a sacred space for podcasting. And although I love the sauna, I know it's really important to you and your mental and physical well-being. I do not like where this is going. I would like the sauna to be somewhere else. Yeah, well, we don't have no other rooms. No, no, I'm aware of the restrictions and what you're dealing with and the parameters. But it's not something that needs to happen right now. It's not even something that needs to happen at all if you don't want it to. I'm in my starter home. Look, I can relate. I get it. But I'm just pushing you to want a room that is strictly for man stuff, podcasting, liquid death, football, Hastings dog beds. All of that stuff is kind of man cave stuff. The sauna, because you do share this with a woman. Dude, his and her sauna? No, no, no. I don't think you need separate ones. I want that now. I just think you need to remove, like, there should be no chick access to this cave. You know what I mean? So, well, and if there is, I think we need to keep a close eye. So you're saying this is a no clit in the pit scenario. Yeah, exactly. Thank you. I think this zone is just what goes on here. I don't want the chi to get fucked up by that female energy. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's trying to slow down. The news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. A lot of questions. But how often? Because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Three times a week. And I have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire owned. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week. And who couldn't use more news? Especially when it's not from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. Oh, this is huge for me personally. This episode of How I'm Gone.

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So those future graduates can find me and, you know, I'm able to accept, quote unquote, donations for my services that might be gray area. You know what I mean? And then email campaigns. Hey, I got a new, you know, 2.3 version upgrade. Boom, boom, boom. Get the analytics going. Raise some money. You know, show your investor all of your cool analytics of what's going on. They're going to want to get in early and we can use Blueprint AI to make your website look as professional. as your competition, if not more. Head to squarespace.com slash howlong for a free trial. When you're ready to launch, use offer code howlong to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or a domain. I want it to be a safe space where I can get my Tim Allen kind of on. Imagine being in here. You and I are in here. We're down in the liquid D. We got the MMA pay-per-view on. We order a couple pizzas from Domino's. There's a chick in here? I got the pizza tracker up on the iPad. Like, what do you think happens? And it's not a mini. What do you think happens? Like, the vibe is off at that point. Jason, I'm probably just going to bounce. Yeah, I lost my appetite. I'll probably just check out. I'll probably just watch the replay tomorrow. No, I'll Venmo you the 25 for my half of the pay-per-view, but I just got to go. It's not feeling good to me. We're going to go to Turn Steve's house instead. You can cruise later if you want. If you can, like, I know you're kind of, like, you know, in the doghouse, but if you can get out, like, join. It's just in Pasadena. It's right on the street. We'll be at Cain's. Okay, back to the scent. So I've been comparing the scent of, like, candles, perfumes, colognes, that world of scents, room sprays, what have you, versus the scents of food. And the differences and similarities, contradictions between those two. So the main root of it is the scent of colognes and sprays and candles. It's a very kind of classist system where... Okay, Red Scare, relax. Classist system when we're talking about fragrances? Listen up, dumb fuck. So people who have the top tier...

scents and perfumes um what is that what is the uh i keep thinking it's scent of a woman portrait of a lady portrait of a lady you know you have frederick mall you have the frederick mall sense you have these byredo candles you have these vetiver lotions and and all this shit and the the the axe body sprays the liz claiborne colognes the aqua de gios the soft soaps The Yankee Candles, if you have that, you're looked down upon as a lower class person. Let's not forget my least favorite, Myers. Because it's parading of something. Exactly. Myers is lying to you. Axe Body Spray is honest and upfront, and that is their customer promise. I like that. Myers is lying to you. It's like, we're affordable. And then you smell that shit. It's a vegan lipstick, isn't it? Yeah, exactly. Christa, you ain't fooling me. Don't Sarah Palin me, Myers. I'm not falling for this. Yeah, I know what lemongrass is. But these slack-jawed yokels are impressed by that. Let me say something here. They said lemon and grass together? Wait, hold the fuck on. No, I think there is something to this. But I also think that the thing about all of this. the high end stuff is that people are buying. It's not actually that expensive. I mean, it is obviously like on a scale of like a soap price. But if you're an upper middle class person, you're buying that stuff to signify that you have good taste. It's not about the, I don't think it's necessarily about, obviously the scents are pleasant, but I'm not sure it's totally about the like understanding of the combinations. I think it's literally about if I have Byredo or Aesop in my bathroom. then people will think that I have good taste. Right. And it's only $80 versus the purse I want is $3,000. Sure. So it's easier to do. Okay, you're able to get the best of something. Exactly. And I think that you get to have the experience. Like going to an ASAP store is like a nice experience. The stores are all like designed differently. They smell good. The service is great. It's a nice experience. The Mercedes dealership is better than the Kia one too. Exactly. But what I'm saying is we don't get that treatment.

in real life very much anymore like most shopping sucks and most service sucks and weirdly some of these places are better than most and the the price point of entry is very reasonable okay well i want to know why or i guess the my question is like if these certain scents the axe body sprays the All that stuff, it's like a derogatory term to say, oh, this guy smells like Axe Body Spray. It's a derogatory term in our world. In almost every world. No, because those scents are created for a mass market, and that's why they smell different. Well, okay, that's a good jumping off point. And then the higher up you go on the taste level, price point level, the more subtle and nuanced. things are and then the further down you go on the price point and taste level it's the opposite of subtle but it's like food it's like if I want dessert and I think I am I have a palate and I'm advanced and I want to telegraph something. I'm going to get an expensive bar of dark chocolate that's bitter and a little bit hard for the common man to understand. I'm going to have a fennel pollen dessert. But if I'm a regular cat, I'm going to get some Starbursts from fucking Sitgo and I'm good to go. This tastes good. This is another great jumping off point to my final thesis. Why is it okay for some cool, rich, hot, tasteful person to, wouldn't it be random if we went and got McDonald's apple pie or we got, I'm craving this nasty food that's stinky and fucked up, but if that same person was to be like, I just really want to wear Axe body spray and have my Swiss vanilla Yankee candle out as a nostalgic, naughty treat, that's looked down upon. Great question.

i think that fast food i i think about this a lot because i feel like fast food is weirdly fetishized also in streetwear world obviously because of like collaborations and whatever and i find that so strange because obviously i think it's disgusting but it's it's all nostalgia Like no matter how much money you have, no matter how rich you grew up, almost no matter where you grew up, there was a trip to a McDonald's or a Chick-fil-A or an In-N-Out or whatever. I went to a taqueria. I think playing on that is a more – that's an easier thing for people to comprehend. And also it's like I'm being bad and ironic. Yes. Whereas like having a Yankee Candle is just like – Now my house smells like vanilla bean. This sucks. There's no, you know what I mean? Like there's no upside. Well, what if you like that smell? Sure. Well, that's the whole point is like there are obviously people who like the smell of Axe body spray. Yeah, but they're not. But they're not allowed to enjoy that publicly in polite society. I would like to empower them to enjoy the Axe body spray. Well, I'm a person. Well, the whole thing is rooted originally in. Sent memory is the most powerful sense memory that you have. Well, I also think there could be a return to – I'm seeing a little bit of this online. The way that – it's like the way that people are being – are returning to some of these mall brands, quote-unquote, whether it's J.Crew or The Gap or Banana Republic or Abercrombie & Fitch. Those like – Any of these outfitters. The sense that we grew up with when we were like teenagers or even prepubescent, polo, polo sport, even the Abercrombie cologne. Michael Jordan. Like those, I could see that. I could see that coming back for the same reason. It's like it's not Axe body spray. I don't get it. It's CVS. But it's also not. frederick mall it's not baredo it's not com de garçon it's a cool water it's an aqua de geo it's an abercromb but i don't think that that's the thing i think like aqua de geo and like davidoff fragrances feel a little too like silly whereas because polo is a brand that's like eternally cool

And Abercrombie even has some of that now, like, returning to those. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And even though Armani is a higher price point than Polo, it's not known as a legacy brand that's enjoyed by everyone. It's still looked down upon, potentially. I mean, it's only because... If you see, like, a... It's because Armani has watered. I mean, like, 90s Armani suiting is fully fetishized now, but I think because they did Emporia Armani, because they do EA7, the awful, like... you're a trash athletic offshoot i think it's of course diluted whereas polo i just feel like it's nike it's a little bit like they make bad decisions all the time and they're completely forgiven and it's totally okay because you can still go into a polo or even rlx or double rl or whatever and like get something you want i can still go to the the outlet mall yeah and go and get a nice cashmere sweater that is suitable to wear on any occasion well i think the difference also is But if I go into an Armani Exchange store, a Balkan guy is going to stab me in the back. Exactly. And also, I think Polo has an iconic logo. That's the other thing. It's like you or I could wear a Polo t-shirt, Polo boxers, Polo hat forever, and that's totally cool. And nothing will ever change that. Is Nautica going to come back? I think there's been... Nautica, the Nissan of clothing. But I think they've attempted all of these things, and I think some of them, of course it could, if they hire the right designer. Nautica, if you're listening, I'm just the they-them for the job. Well, the real one that keeps coming up is structure. Coming up in certain circumstances? I just see it being talked about, and I remember it so vividly because it was famous for the six-button polo, which is insane. But that was the look, and it was... But I just feel like it was this thing. You know, my brother and I were boosting from structure. Of course. Structure was like this thing and it really came in hot and burned out bright and like no one talks about it. It's not something that, you know what I mean? It's like, it's just as ugly.

as all that other stuff that people now think is cool. But all my vintage resellers on Instagram are not posting the six-button polo in the fucking university site. The blind melon of clothing companies. But it's really weird because all that stuff now is fetishized. And that, to me, is no different. That looks like something some fucking 22-year-old in New York would buy at the ugly L-Train Vintage and think it's cool. Well, after this episode drops and it feeds the streets, the grail... Structure search. We need to know. Well, the real question is who owns structure? Who owns the intellectual problem? It was owned by like the company. I think that does the limited. Yes, it was the male limited. Yeah, it was the male limited. Not to be confused with the limited too. Of course. Spelled T-O-O. I have a rich history with limited too. My little sister was a model for limited too. Real talk. That's right. In the windows. I think my brother worked at limited too. That's weird. I think in the back, doing stock work. That makes sense. He wasn't getting a room started for an eight-year-old. But I remember my brother used to go to structure. Can I get you guys a room started? Yeah, get a room started. He used to go to structure, and he would get ex-pants. What are those? Those were structures offering into the world of pants that have a zipper just below the knee. Of course. Oh, my God. Classic shoplifter staple. I had so many pairs of those, but not from structure. This cargo pant is a cargo short. Sure. What is it? This cargo pant is a pipe bomb? Something's going on here. This bike is a pipe bomb. Finally made it onto how long gone after 500 episodes. Yeah, structure. I'm going to get into my business bag and find out who owns the IP to structure. Because I'm sure it's owned by one of those giant conglomerates that buys distressed companies. And maybe they're just sitting on it. But that does seem like something that could be ripe for a reboot. I think the only issue is it's going to need a reboot. And especially because I think the quality of those garments.

All that clothing from 1998 has now just dissolved into a bottle of Cove water. It's become compost. It's not meant to live longer than 10 years. I mean, yes and no. Shout out to Cove water. You guys rock. Yeah, shout out to Cove water. Glad you guys got that thing on the shelves finally. I want to talk about our big night last night because... I'm realizing that... TT's a big night. I'm realizing that... We're halfway through the show. It's edible time. I'm realizing that one of my favorite positions to be in is... Between who and who? With you and Southern adults. Because you retain your acute sense of humor, but you're working blue, and it's... Might be funnier. No, it's the opposite of working blue. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yes, I'm sorry. You're right. You're right. I'm sorry. I'm normally blue 24-7. Yes, yes. And then when I hang out with polite southern adults, I pump the brakes. I go baby blue. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're right. It's all good. We were with a friend of the show, Andrews. His family is in town because the... Georgia Bulldogs are playing in the national championship against Texas Christian University. Fuck TCU. At the beautiful SoFi Stadium on Monday night. No tailgating allowed bullshit. They flew in from Georgia to support their team. And, you know, they're obviously celebrating multiple. They're going to Nobu. They're going to Felix. We were lucky enough to be invited to the group dinner at Gigi's last night. And the table, the setup is. Me, Jason, Andrew's, Andrew's mother, Andrew's stepdad. The table behind us, Andrew's sister Dallas, four sorority girlfriends. Why we weren't at that table, I'm still confused about, but I don't make the rules. This is kind of what I was told was happening. And I have to say that the level of wholesome conversation.

It enriches me. I can't explain it. It's because you're a southern boy. It really is, but I feel like it has the same effect on you, though. It does, because we were both raised by older people who grew up in the south, more or less. I see. Yeah, I just think that, like, I don't know. My grandmama's from Virginia, and folks like you might say that ain't real south. I mean, look, it's up for debate. They weren't going to that pussy-ass Washington, D.C. liberal cuck shit. They were going to WV for fun? They were shooting Wolverines with the 12-gauge out in the woods or whatever. I do forget that you have a slight southern bend, and you do, much like me around British people, you do start to use your southern accent to the point where I think most people think it's charming, but you could cross the line. Oh, yeah. I mean, I do it whenever I hang out with your parents. I turn it. I mean, it's just little things. You're saying the same sentences. You're just rearranging. You're not pulling out new, unused words from the language that you normally use. It's like, you know, like I'll give your dad a shot of tequila because he's been enjoying the spirits of tequila lately. And, you know, I'll take a shot and be like, oh, that's good. That's smooth. But with your dad, I'll be like, that sure is all right. Or like this one. Well, that ain't half bad. Okay. So you're saying. These are all just normal. I'm not pulling out these odd. No, no, no. But it's the same. The same sentiment is being expressed. But it's just the wording is slightly different. But, yeah, I just think that that seeing you. Imagine getting some head and saying that ain't half bad. Hey, that ain't half bad. Trust me, Jason. That's definitely happened at Delta Phi Gamma a few times. Oh, God. I feel bad because I know Andrew's parents are listening to this right now. I think they would understand. But they have great taste. They're staying at shutters. I'm happy that they're having an L.A. experience that most parents don't have. I feel like most parents maybe try to strong arm and make some decisions that they think they should make.

Whereas they seem to be listening to Andrews and being like, no, no. Like, here's what we're doing. Like, it's going to be good. You're going to love it. We can go to the fancy, nice restaurant, and we'll talk about Macaroni Grill and how awesome it is, but we won't actually go to Macaroni Grill. We don't actually have to go there. But, yeah, it just really warms my heart to see you in these situations because I think it really allows you to shine in a way that I think most people don't get to see. So I feel lucky that I'm able to witness the litmus. Yeah, thank you. Thank you for that. I mean, there's something about, you know, like impress. I don't know what it is like where you want to impress and endear parents. Well, I think it's partly because I have no stick. I got no skin in the game, you know? No, you don't have any skin in the game, especially in this case. But I think I think it's more because does that mean we're being invited there because. For these reasons, because Andrews knows that we'll have fun with it and it'll be better for everyone and it'll be great. And we're his only two straight friends. No, I was going to say, I think the reason, even if it's subconscious, that we're doing this is because we want his parents to know that he's kind of in good hands out here. You know what I mean? And we're able to translate that information in a language that they're able to understand. We're the baroncini olive oil. Yes. Parents are the Mother Jones satay pan. Andrews is the salmon. You put them together without the baroncini olive oil. Oh, no, no, no, no. The pan is ruined. Blackened. It's straight to the bin, but with a nice you and me olive oil. Sizzles. With a conduit. I just think that that is kind of what we're, I think that's what happens in the situation without us knowing because we, you know, it's not. We're not going to say mother. No, no, exactly. We're not going to say that's on period. No, exactly. Yeah, we're not. We will not recap RuPaul's Drag Race season 14. It's just going to be a nice conversation where we can relate. And it makes Andrew's parents leave and they're like, you know what? He's out here in the big city. It's crazy. But at least he's got.

Guys like this, they're older, they seem relatively together, they're not serial killers from what we can tell, and they know enough football terms where we respect them. Jason, he said wide out. Receiver? I'm blown away. I'm just so impressed. I'm sorry. You said he's running a route? Yeah, I don't know what it is, but you've got to turn the charm on. but it's not but that's what i mean of course and we're both doing that but it's also not like hamming it up because you don't want to go eddie haskell mode where it's like obnoxious and like over the top and too nice you know what i mean i guess my point is that there's a level where you're not neutering yourself and you're still showing your personality without being hokey all you got to do is be perfect right it's true yeah it's true um and i i got to have some nice pasta Over, uh, over at, sorry, PN Davide's house. He got a big giant saute pan from the Funk Man. I have a question about this. I saw this, yeah, I saw this video on Instagram of them doing like a tandem salting, I guess, where it's like this pan. Funk Man's got this giant fucking pan of pasta and he's flipping it like it's on a trampoline and Davide's salt baying it. It might be Parmesan. Okay, whatever. But I'm like, this is not necessary. Whatever this is does not need to happen. It feels performative. Performative. Performative. But I don't mind it. But I was just like, this looks like, it looks like they're like Jabberwockies. It looks like they're like. It looks like those, like when you see the two guys covered in mud in that like oil refinery. Yes. Those two guys and one guy is doing another thing. Or like when like. There's like something that people have to smash with a hammer. It's the train. It's the train thing where you're going up and down. Oh, yeah, the two people on the push cart train. I'm like, you guys probably don't need to do this. And I know off camera, Funk Man's got four assistants over there. They're like, here we go again. Well, here's the difference and here's the problem. Large format cooking of pasta is just like a bastard. It's a pain in the ass. Like ideally, you're making pasta for two people at the most because.

You have to have this pan, and you're moving it, and the act of flipping it and moving it instead of stirring it, it creates this emulsion in the liquid, and it forms that natural sauce without breaking any of the pasta or whatever. So if you're doing this for 40 people... Yeah, if you're doing that for 40, then you need a fucking linebacker with this big, giant copper pot that, you know, the thing weighs 50 pounds. Funkman's more of a defensive lineman, but yeah. Yeah, you know. I get it. He'll get gassed out, but... you know even if i'm making pasta like i you can't do it for more than four people or else the pan is just going to be you know so where do you think they found a pan of this caliber was this imported from the motherland it was imported from this place called restaurant warehouse depot okay i mean that's what everyone uses i wish i had a bigger one actually myself but the problem is if you get like a a nice like stainless steel all clad pan from like sur la top well first of all it's expensive and second of all it's just heavy as fuck and you need You need to be able to flip it and move it. So Funkman being down in his squat position with his lats turned on, gripping that thing. Oh, his lats are lit. He had the grip strength on it. Do you think he's putting all his weight onto the heel or more of the middle of the foot to keep it balanced? I mean, all I know is if I see those toes come up, I'm blowing a whistle. That's all I'm saying. Once a form queen, always a form queen. Always a form queen. But I feel like these dinners have been getting, I feel like the entertaining over there has become almost – I need to check the finances because I feel like they've opened a little restaurant low-key, and then I want Uncle Sam to know about that. Well, I don't know if they're making money off of this. I don't know if they're making money off you, but we don't know what's going on over there. There's some made-off stuff going on. We have no idea. Look, I think that olive oil feels like a scam because it's something everybody needs. And it's a little bit like, we said that we don't give for you. It's not like bottled water. No one's going to give you, here's this free bottle of Fiji. It's like, no, that costs. Yeah, and the olive oil is delicious, and I would highly recommend buying it. And I have a nice giant tub of it at my house as we speak. I just want to know what's going on. It's like a currency.

Well, I think the rolled up 20 in the hand. But I like olive oil as a business because it's not like I got vitamins. It's not like check out my T-shirts. It's like, oh, this is something useful, and it looks nice on the counter. I'm like, this is cool. This is a cool business versus some of the things that other people do. Do you think the olive oil mafia are the ones who were responsible for taking down big seed oil? I would say they have a part in it. Yeah. And I think Davide... Not 100% of the blame. I think Davide is definitely... I mean, I don't... I'm not a rat, first and foremost. You know I obey the street code. Just because you say that doesn't mean... Just because you preface the sentence with that. I obey the street code. I'm not a civilian, but I'm just saying... Like, to get those level of olives from those trees. The street goes different in Sicily, bro. I'm saying. You've seen the Godfather part. We can't just waltz in there and be like, we're making how long on olive oil and get the best olives. No. You know what I'm saying? You have to speak Italian. You got to have the Land Rover. You have to have the three dogs. There's a whole thing. They're like, you're real. You know what I mean? What color is your Land Rover from 1993? You got to ride your BMW motorcycle. Is it an esoteric pistachio? Please sit down. Please sit down. Beautiful color. First of all, beautiful color. But I do think that the, I just think that olive oil is a nice, I'm seeing it a lot as like a thing that people are doing. People are doing it. Because of his extremely authentic Italian heritage, I'm not buying Brightland from some fucking white chick that went to Stanford. Hell no. No, hell no. Like, I believe this motherfucker. Like, I believe this guy. Yeah. You know, I just don't. The way that people buy things like that from, like, you're really going to. Okay, so that's great. So you and your partner, you got a Series A. You made some olive oil that looks like. a fucking wallpaper from a boutique hotel in Knoxville, and I'm going to pay $50. But it's a thing. That's like a stunt to some people to have that in their house. Yeah, because your olive oil is now an aesthetic. Yeah. Because back in the day, if you're an Italian back over there, you just have that plastic water bottle that you're drinking out of. Those are just filled with olive oil. Because you're using so much of it if you're really cooking.

Because it's just a utility. Yeah, that's what I mean. Now that it's something that we keep on our shelves, you know, it was like that Dion Cole line, like every black family has a case of bottled water on their floor in their kitchen. It's like every Italian house just has whatever, like old bleach bottles and two liter Coke filled up with olive oil. Pour it on. And it's the best olive oil, and it's not something that you think about. It's not something that you're like. How can I display this and merchandise this on my shelf for when I get the AD shoot? And it's so much of like, do I get this one-gallon metal square tin that has this kind of old-style regal look to it? It's both pedestrian, user-friendly, but also a little dignified? Or do I get this one that looks like an adorkable rug that I bought on Etsy? No, it looks like Brightland looks like it should have died with the wing. Yeah, man. Like, that's the vibe. I mean, I'm sure it's a good product. I'm sure it's totally fine. Like, I'm sure it's a bad product. I'm sure it's not bad. Yeah. But there's something about the olive oil has this, it's alive, and it has this essence and truth and honesty to it. You're saying that can be removed when the branding is adorkable. It's crazy. It's like a dog. Like, it's better to have an ugly rescue dog, olive oil. than this dumb expensive overpriced i would agree in this one instance i would absolutely agree with you in this one instance you're like oh what where'd you get your olive oil oh it's a rescue i heard dude i heard this yesterday at the dry cleaners i was picking up some pants and it was literally like there's three people in line the dry cleaners and it's some chick with her fucking annoying dog in the dry cleaners and they're having a conversation about rescue dogs like they've known each other for 30 years I just think it's so awesome. These two 60-year-old men are talking to this 30-year-old project manager in line at the dry cleaners, and I'm like, I need to pick up my fucking pants. You guys get to shut the fuck up about how important it is to rescue dogs. I'm going to sound crazy and take this with a grain of salt, but I'm actually against...

A murdering puppy. Yeah. Oh, my God. That is so crazy. I am too. Also, in the scale of things that you can do in this world that are important, having a dog is near the very bottom as far as I'm concerned. Well, you're not really a hunter-gatherer type. I'm not, and neither are you. I mean, unless you're gathering from the bulk bin at fucking Whole Foods, I don't see you out here foraging, big dog. I have a... I have a watchful eye. Stealing oranges or lemons from a neighbor's tree is technically foraging, I guess. Never lemons. Never? No. What do I need lemons for? You've given me bags of lemons when I'm off this house. What do I need them for? We're lousy with lemons. What am I going to do? You don't drink lemon water as soon as you wake up for your digestion? Fuck lemons. Okay, so we're going fuck lemons. Look, this is a problem. Do you think that shrimp cocktail would have been as good last night with that little squirt? It needs a squirt, but that's the thing. Lemon is a utility. It doesn't get me excited. It's like having baking soda in your house. Yeah, but you would still buy lemons from Cookbook. No. You wouldn't. Lemons are like lighters. They're just around, and they're passed from people to people. You walk by someone's house. There's just a bag full of lemons. Please take them. In my world, I've never been given lemons anyone but from you, and I've never seen a take one and pass it along lemon bag in front of someone's home. If that ain't country, but here's my problem. I walk all over these streets of Cali. You walk all over these ten blocks of Glendale. No, no, no. You could go to some industrial park in Vernon and some fucking shit-stained wall. There's a lemon tree with a bunch of lemons. Not a single person wants it, cares about it, needs it. There's rarely oranges or tangerines. These are all beautiful, expensive fruits that are similar to a lemon. Everyone could just have orange juice every day. I would prefer, of course, if I'm going to be given a bag of anything, I would prefer it be money, but if not, oranges, I'll pay. If we're talking citrus. Oranges are great. There's more to them. Lemon is, you're right, lemon is an accessory. And they're everywhere. We're lousy with lemons. We need no more lemons. We need more oranges. But aren't they vital to cooking? They are vital to cooking. Okay, but you're saying, much like olive oil, it's like, but can you...

Let me ask this. With olive oil, I feel like there's a difference in quality that you can tell, and that's why some are used for finishing and some are used for cooking, et cetera. Now, with lemons, are you squeezing and feeling those things up, and are you like, this one is for the shrimp cocktail, this one's for a dressing? I can tell the difference between a good and a bad lemon by feeling it, looking it, smelling it. Also, the idea of the lemon is you don't want it to be, much like the derriere, you don't want it to be too fat. No. You want it to be medium-sized? You want it to feel heavier than it looks. Okay, because that means it's more ripe. It's just ripe with sensual fluids, and you want the skin to be a little more softer, less big pores, just kind of like humans ourselves. Now, if there are abrasions and discolorations, does that actually affect the taste? Not really. Okay. But it may affect the overall quality and complexity of the paper. Because when I'm getting my lemons at Vaughn's, these things are looking like they got ran over by a truck sometimes. Like bullshit. Little dots and scrapes. Orange juice is very expensive. It's insane. Even if you go to a shitty diner that has fresh squeezed orange juice. $8 for a glass of orange juice. Tiny glass. Also, I want to talk about this real quick. It's like the little bottle of waters. When you give me a fucking mouthwash-sized cup of orange juice for $6, look at me. Don't offer that to me. Look at me. Only bring me the big size. I'm happy to pay for it. A shot glass of orange juice. Also, you bring it before the meal. I'm going to finish it before the food gets here. You can tell I'm a guzzler. You can tell I'm a big guzzler. I'm like a fucking – I'm like a 350. You put it in my mouth, I'm swallowing it. It's crazy. But the size of the orange... Swallow first, ask questions later. That's what Chris says. That's kind of something I live by. Yeah, that's just what's been bugging me on my fun little life. Well, I'm glad to hear all this stuff has been worked out. But I think I was talking to my life partner about it, and she was saying lemons just must grow like weeds, and oranges are a more finicky fruit that is not as easy to grow. I assume there's probably something to do with lemons being...

you know, more native to California. Oh, yeah. Because oranges, as we all know, are a Florida export. One of the many great things about the beautiful state of Florida. I think that could be just some branding and marketing. I don't know how true that is. I think they just planted the trees at some point, so it works. Yeah, the same way we planted palm trees everywhere. But the weather in Florida is, the humidity might lead to... Did you know that California is actually a desert? What? And when it rains... that's like it makes me um post broth on maine dude the broth on maine is is one of the greatest man i just look at videos of the la river overflowing on twitter and then i go like this people dude everything is so funny every the behavior that people exhibit me included it just makes me fucking never posted broth on maine i don't i've never tasted broth on maine i've never had broth in my mouth I've never gone to Brodo. I've never bought. Well, unfortunately, I've bought $25 broth marijuana, but I've never had it. You were talking about broth, about something about L.A. and broth, but I was also thinking, like, that's a little contradictory because New York has multiple stores that only sell broth, and I don't think L.A. has any. That's because... So is it fair to say that L.A. is less brothy than New York? I would say it's less... Suck my fucking dick. I would say it's less brothy, but... Suck my brothy dick. I would say that the broth... I mean, I think in New York... Sorry, Mrs. Steele. A Brodo type of place is like a... It looks like a coffee. You know, it's just like in a coffee cup. Oh, on the down low. You just sip on it. I mean, it costs... It's the same price as a Cortado now, $12. And you just sip on it, whereas here... No one is the wiser. Where here it's some chick with a filter on being like, it's so cold today and rainy. I'm just making some broth and it's a picture of a pot. You know what I mean? It's like that's not the same. Once again, it feels more utilitarian. I'm getting my collagen on the way to the office. Here it's like I don't have a job.

I've already gone to yoga. It's raining outside, so I can't drive my Audi. So I'm going to heat up some broth I got from Erewhon and then pour it into one of my nice, cute mugs and have a cuppa. And you're more of like, time is money. Let me get my broth, my grande broth, no foam, and be on my way to Wall Street. Yeah, exactly. And that way I don't have to have chop for lunch because I'm full. Oh, yeah. But I think broth in general. I feel like most other trends, five years from now, it's going to be like, yeah, broth. I mean, it kept you full. Once we got the science back about broth. Yeah, I just don't. I'm sure some of it is. I just think that anything that becomes that popular, I think the benefits are overblown. There are definitely benefits, but I think it becomes like a. Right, right, right. People have been enjoying broth for centuries. Yeah, exactly. Myriad years. And then now whenever something resurfaces as the trend comes back again, they're like, but maybe this is like the most amazing thing of all time in the history of the world. Do you have lymphoma? Try broth. It's like I don't think that's really – I think it's like – A doctor won't tell you that, but it's true. Yeah, exactly. Big broth will – but I mean people are making a fortune on broth. It's a labor-intensive process. is why when you buy it at the store, it's exorbitant. Why it costs $24 for some onion water? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want, what about cold broth? Cold broth? Hmm. That's what the dogs be eating over here. I'm so broth cucked over here that every single morning, the dog food has like a little, has some warm chicken broth. It's not just for the dogs. But since we juice, we do the juice cleanses once a week, whenever it's cold as fuck, so you start to feel anemic after drinking cold celery juice in the cold rain. So we'll have broth as well. So we're always making the broth. But there's so much of it, so I'm giving it to a dog. So you're adding broth to beans, food, like pasta water to the pot. See, see. And then I go...

But I mean all that collagen for the fur coat? No, of course. The coats are looking beautiful, so it's obviously working. Smelling like garlic and shit? But the behavior in L.A. when it rains really is something. People truly don't know what to do because they realize. Ourselves included. They're forced to reckon with the fact there's literally nothing to do here if you can't go outside. There's nothing to do. If you're a day consistent of working out and going to the grocery store, you've got eight more hours. Yeah. Whenever it rains, I just look out the window. And just be like, damn, it's really coming down out there. This is crazy. You know, this is probably good for the yard, but it's kind of fucking up my plan. Yeah. And for our young listeners, as you get older, you will care more and more about weather. That's right. It's just unavoidable because the weather really affects your little life. It affects my mood to the point where I feel like I should get checked out. Like when it's sunny every day, I wake up, I'm ready to fucking hit the ground running. I feel great. That last week where it was like, it's about to happen again, like pouring rain every fucking day, all day, I'm not feeling as productive as I should. Maybe it's best if you move to the... Cayman Islands or like whatever climate, like the Caribbean. Honestly, the only place on year round. Yeah. And like Florida, honestly, like Florida, it rains, but it rains for 20 minutes. You know, it's over. Oh, it's an invigorating rain. I think that's the only place to go. It's stuck under a bus stop. Palm Beach, Chris coming soon. Okay. You know, unless, unless I might be priced out. So it could be Tampa, Chris coming soon, but we'll see. Yeah, you are definitely priced. I'm open. We have a few. We put the merch up on our website on Thursday or Friday. But there's a few more shirts and hats available. So go buy those. Maybe by the time this comes out, they might be sold out. But if you've been wanting to buy one of those hats or shirts, the time is nigh. The time is now. All right, Jason. Is that it? I mean, that's it.

i'm gonna sauna today i'm gonna go to raisin canes for dinner with mikey i'm so bored that i've already worked out this morning but i'm gonna go for a hike which is the lowest form of la exercise but i disagree bro no it's it's too it's i don't i don't like seeing the people up there that's what it is i don't like seeing like maybe you need to go actually get lost No. Like get a van and go to Utah. Oh. Do some real hiking. Well, I mean, I think that that is at least beautiful. This is like fine. I mean, it's prettier than fucking Santa Monica Boulevard, but it's not. Maybe next episode we're going to make fun of the, we're going to get into the people who just somehow bought an old Volkswagen van, spent $30,000 to fix it up into a biodiesel thingy, and then wear head-to-toe Snow Peak and just like. Hang out with your dog in the woods? Those guys didn't buy Volvos. Those guys bought Sprinters and they were $300,000. And they have a shower and a kitchen. And they're not wearing Snowpeak. What do they do to make money? Great question. Probably crypto. Now, I truly don't know. The digital nomads, it's going to be tough for them. My heart goes out to y'all. All right. How long gone? Thank you guys for listening. We appreciate y'all. Stay safe out there. Stay dry. Stay dry. Bye. Bye.