715. - Kareem Rahma

All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. How long gone? Them jeans getting his stuff stuffed. His words, not mine. What's really going on, my G? I'm not getting my shit stuffed, to be clear. I'm just adjusting my external monitor, making sure that the arrangement, we're going horizontal, not vertical. I was thinking about this, the fact that I've never had an external monitor. And I feel like that's pretty rare, even for people in my field. Or am I wrong? I feel like the external monitor has become par for the course these days, no matter what your career is. I guess it's kind of 50-50. I think there's just some people you can look at them and be like, no, you're not an external monitor person. You are definitely not giving external monitor. That's good. Not derogatory. Non-derogatory. That felt a little derogatory, but I guess that it can be. Because I feel like it's like my dad at some point set up the two monitors in his office. And I was like, damn, even my dad's got two monitors? Like, what the fuck? This guy can barely use his cell phone. I was left behind. It's one of those things where it used to be a big deal.

Just like, you know, all displays are just so cheap now that you're like, you know, the cost to benefit ratio is pretty sweet nowadays. You can just get a dope-ass one for like $100 on Amazon. Unfortunately, I would be the guy who has to buy the Apple one that is still expensive. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's still expensive. I'm going to need a $1,700 17-inch display. I'm going to need that display for... twitter i was you are you are retouching a lot of cgi so it is important that you get those pixels there the renderings that i'm doing bro it's fucking crazy i do it on a laptop it's absolutely crazy i was i was sent this link to the chat but uh i i don't know if elon seemed to timed a twitter merch launch with uh trump's unfortunate victory and i found that to be i was like bro you just made you know like the richest people in the world when trump won the presidency on tuesday what they're they're they went up like 50 billion each like it's literally it's crazy and i'm like you're out here shilling like austin guy mesh hats with an x on them like you really need to capitalize that much you fucking clown but i guess he does i wonder how much money he is actually going to make by selling $30 trucker hats with the letter X on them? That's a great question. Black on black. And is that the best use of his time? Definitely. I mean, I would rather him be... Obviously, he's not, you know, he's not... designing these himself but still i would rather him be concentrating on what the shopify is doing than anything to do with governing our country it's true so i take it as a w i take it as a w in that sense that any distraction we're able to to distract this person who could ruin planet earth by simply it's like jangling keys in front of a baby like what if you designed a dope t-shirt and then boom three months of legislation Down the drain. Oh, that's so funny. I mean, I think I predict and I think both of them are such volatile figures that him and Trump are going to have one of the greatest falling outs of all time eventually. And it's going to be great for someone who reads the gossip pages like me. Hopefully that happens before they can collaborate on doing irreparable damage to our society and democracy.

It's going to happen. It's going to be good when it does. Okay. Do you, I mean, I don't, I don't know if I really see it happening because as we said on the last episode, the quote from podcaster Joe Budden, Elon ride dick like his life depend on it. And I think anyone around Donald Trump, anyone in his orbit or his sphere, they're all supreme dick riders. You know, they are his own vice president. a year ago was saying i would never vote for trump in my entire life and now here he is sucking it from the back side left and working the balls of course of course no no i i i agree with you but i think that the difference with elon is he's so independently wealthy and so driven by ego that like he he will eventually think that he can do whatever the president does because he is so rich You know what I'm saying? Something needs to happen in order for that power to shift. Because Elon could literally, like, I finally did it, guys. I built a tunnel from L.A. to San Francisco where you can drive there in 45 minutes in a car. Or we colonized planet Mars. I really did it. I'm the most important. And Trump is still going to be like, that's gay. That's not swag. And he's going to have to do something. Donald Trump sitting in the White House with McDonald's on his desk telling Elon that something is not swag is really what I kind of... That's the best case scenario for these two bozos. I think it's because both of them have their own independent wealth and power, but the demographics of their audience that they control and command... are so different yeah the people that are dick writers for elon are some of the slimiest nerdiest you know think of the worst guy who lives on your block he is an elon stan whereas trump has supporters all over hollywood cool influential funny people comedians movie stars some for you know none of the movie stars are good they're rob schneider's but still like you know there's women that want to trump you know like nobody's looking at elon like

I'd like to ride that steed. No, that's all true. That's all true. So Elon needs to have a song come out that's really big. He needs a dead mouse thing to happen to him to where they're like, you know what? Elon's going to headline Coachella this year, not because he's Elon, but just because the music is that good, man. He's just killing it right now. I was reading before we got on the podcast, there's a big movement. saying that that bro podcasts have kind of the reason that trump won the election and they're you know they're they're disenfranchised you know aiden ross streamers like aiden ross but obviously it ladders all the way up to theo von and joe rogan and and what's bobby bobby what's his name what's the guy's name oh bobby the asian cat Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bobby Lee. Bobby Lee, who's who's diabolically unfunny, like one of the least funny people on planet Earth. But it's basically, you know, it's basically blaming our medium for the for the problem that our that our country is currently, you know, dealing with. And I just don't know if do you think podcasting is that powerful? I think it might unfortunately be at this point. Yeah, I think it's much more influential. It allows you to control people's thoughts and feelings and emotions much more than other people in the Hollywood entertainment industry with much bigger followings and fan bases. Yeah, it's like Beyonce endorsing you doesn't do any good, but doing three hours with Rogan in the spaceship in Austin gets you in the seat. And Beyonce... endorsing you is best case scenario we're going yes yes yes yes you know bonnie very moving the chains no shade to the god and katie perry is reversing the chain moving the chains in the that's 10 yard penalty still third down no make it to 20 yards that she they look too excited to see each other we're gonna have to walk this one back no you're absolutely right but i i think that it's it's just interesting that that podcasting

um, of all things is playing such a role in this kind of storyline as it, as it unfurls and everyone, you know, wants to, to kind of look at what happened and try to blame something, um, which there, obviously there's so many factors that play into it. And I do think it's one of them. Yeah. I think another way to frame it where it's not just podcasting and not just specifically quote unquote broadcasts, but more so. So I saw somebody else. tweet this or or post on instagram i don't know exactly what it was and i'm not going to say who it was but they're saying that basically the republican party has wrangled and mastered digital media digital content in general Whereas the Democratic Party has harnessed the Hollywood entertainment industry. And the Hollywood entertainment industry is currently tanking. Every film comes out, loses $200 million. All the TV show deals are gone. Streamers are dissolving and being absorbed and blah, blah, blah. Whereas digital media content creators, live streamers are continuing to... I made $300,000 last month because... I was playing video games. Glorilla came to my house, and we did some dances, and I put $300 in the checking account when she left. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. It's upsetting, but the Hollywood system, they had it really good for a really long time. We were printing money, and life was wonderful and everything like that. Now, because the technology thresholds have been broken, the gate is no longer... gate-keepable, and everyone can create content with zero dollars and a high-speed internet connection. And it's good, and I'm glad that we are digital content creators who are able to operate independently, do and say whatever we want. Hopefully... for the powers of good and not for the powers of evil let's say not let's let's say i don't i don't think whatever we want but we can get close you know whatever i want get close depending on the subjects you know i think we can get close no but i just yeah i mean seeing like academics being like i told y'all you know it's just like this is so crazy you mean academics as in

scholarly studied people or academics with a k i'm sorry academics with a k is has has been a trump supporter throughout the election and then was gloating quite a bit on on the internet and people are like bro you're a rapist loser and kind of shut him down like just we're like bro shut the fuck up and i i but nothing can stop these these guys because now they're empowered you know what i mean and i i don't know if um i i also don't know if like the young, the men that are being spoken about, like if they're even going to pay attention anymore. Does that make sense? Pay attention to what? Politics. Like I think the action of an election and like the us versus them mentality makes it more appealing to someone who's younger and like wants something to believe in. But once your guy's in office, like what are you going to read policy and watch Fox? Like I just don't know if that, I don't know if it continues. You know what I'm saying? I feel like it just like. It's like watching the World Series but not watching the regular season. Good analogy. You know what I mean? So I just don't – I wonder what the actual kind of takeaway is going to be beyond where we're at now. We can ask our guests about this. Yeah, we can ask our guests. I think – I guess we might as well. But if we've learned anything – hold on. We're finishing our intro. Pause. Yeah, we will ask our guests, Kareem, about that. But if we've learned anything – All it takes is four years to forget about everything that happened. And, you know, everyone is going to be very excited for Trump to finish building the wall and deporting all the brown people. And, you know, all the cat eaters are going to be gone. And then in three months, we will remember like, oh, yeah, he's not going to do any of that. Even if we tried to do it, it would be impossible. All the plans that he wants to implement would take 19 years to ever happen. He'll be dead by the time anything goes into office. We'll see. We have a guest today. Yeah, our guest today is Kareem Rama. He's a – I don't want to say content creator.

Because he's more than that. He's a filmmaker, content creator, and... You've seen his work on platforms such as Instagram and TikTok. He had a New York Times profile this week. He talked to enemy of the show, Hasan Minhaj, a few times. So there's a lot to kind of unpack here. Hasan Minhaj, I think, greenlit a deal for him. So maybe he doesn't want to disparage him as much as you do, Chris. No, I'm joking. I love Hasan Minhaj. And Cream has the most important job of all. Dad, let's give him a call. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's trying to slow down. The news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. A lot of questions. But how often? Because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Three times a week. And I have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire owned. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week. And who couldn't use more news? Especially when it's not from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. Oh, this is huge for me personally. This episode of How I'm Gone. It was brought to you by TaskRabbit. Oh, baby, let me tell you something. This is not a joke. I use TaskRabbit a lot because I can't do anything. You need some art hung? TaskRabbit. You need a fucking something put together, a cabinet. Got to reach that cheese grater on the top shelf? TaskRabbit. Anything you need, TaskRabbit can take care of it for you. And, I mean, how it works, TaskRabbit connects you with skilled taskers in your area. They can help you move. They can assemble furniture.

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Okay, we can't give away the sauce. You went Hollywood and switched it up. Yeah, showrunner ass, bitch. Fellas, I'm in Hollywood, New York right now. Where you at? Okay, so Hollywood, have they come knocking? I didn't know about the Hasan Minhaj thing. I thought he was just on your show. Oh, yeah, no, he was just on the show. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I thought maybe there were two brown guys cooking up something. You know, you can't do two brown guys. You can only do one and then one. Have you ever heard of the Wayans brothers, brother? Which brothers? The Coen brothers? The Wayans brothers. Yeah, those guys are... That was the name of their production company, two brown guys cooking it up. They're not brown, even. That's stolen valor. No, that's fair. You need a white counterpart to get something over the line. It doesn't have to be white. It can be Asian. Okay. Like Harold and Kumar, that set the stage for us, all three of us, all three brown guys on the show. They've walked so we could run. Yeah, walk me. It's been a while, but if you can remember what that day must have felt like the first time you saw Harold and Kumar, what that did to your DNA, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was pretty much like, I need an Asian friend. So I put out a little ad on Craigslist and said, looking for Asian to go on a magical adventure with. Wow, that's my Raya profile. Wow. That's crazy. That's fucking crazy. What do you mean that's crazy? So sick. No, that would convert. No, that's the most white guy shit of all time to go on magical adventures with. I'm going to take you to Ojai. That works. That would convert. Definitely works. I'm going to advise all of my friends who are looking for Asians to go on magical adventures with to put that in their Raya's. Because that is, I mean, that's a beautiful sentiment. That's a beautiful sentiment. I agree. How can you look at that negatively? Even if you're a total creep, it still seems romantic. It is romantic. Storm King. You know what? I used to take girls when I was single to Storm King on the first date. Okay, can you explain that first? No, that's trying too hard. How many times did that convert? You're not fucking that night on the train on the way back. I would rent a car.

That's how crazy I was about these. Bro, how many times did you do this? Hold on. How many times did you do this? We have a lot of listeners. Kareem, we have a lot of listeners who have no idea what Storm King is. That's not true. That's not true. What do you mean that's not true? You're Coastal Elite. After Charlie XCX did an album release party there, everybody knows what it is. Okay. For those that don't know, you Luddites. Storm King is a sculpture park upstate. It's really big. It's like an outdoor museum. And usually it's reserved for like the third or fourth date, generally speaking. Because then you go to Dia Beacon, which is a museum that's in an old chocolate factory. I would say Dia Beacon is the more romantic of the two, in my opinion. Okay, so date number one, you're like, I rented a car and we're driving to a rural forest upstate. And she's like, Let's get it popping. Anyway, I have an AirTag. How does it work? Hold on. Did the date ride in the trunk or in the front seat with you? Dates. Multiple dates. Dates. I'm sorry. Okay, so Shorty wakes up and she's like, wow, I've always wanted to come to Storm King. Well, I had to escalate. You're in the Volvo like this? I'm just kidding. Kareem is a happily, are you married? I'm like, yeah. You're partnered. I call it married. Call it married because partnered is, I'm really trying to reject it. Like if you're gay, it's a partner. If you're not, it's your chick. It's your girlfriend. It's your significant other. What if you're a little gay? What if you're Shawn Mendes? Still figuring it out. Still figuring it out. How do you feel about my gal? I don't like my gal. No, the worst is my lady. Oh, yeah, it's going to be me and my lady tonight. It's like, bro, you got to stop. I don't know why. I know girlfriend can feel reductive, especially when you have a child together. You know what I mean? That's exactly why. I understand you're looking for a new word, but. But just say wife. Just skip ahead, especially if she's cool with it. If she's going to eventually give in to you, you might as well. Yeah. I mean, after we had the kid, I was just like, I'm just going to call you my wife now. OK. It just sounds cooler. Before you had a kid, you were taking. OK, so you took multiple girls, first date, Storm King. How often did that convert? I want numbers. Not well.

convert to what Chris convert to a wonderful relationship or convert to only sexual intercourse only sexual intercourse and never converted in fact I don't think I got any callbacks I think the problem is I mean it's trying it's trying really hard yeah it's like in a way in a way that is like and I was also like 25 and had no money so like I was burning $250 on a first date with someone I didn't know at all And I would just go based on looks. For a little Wes Anderson-ass date. Yeah, but based on looks, like, you know, looks are deceiving. They can't not be deceiving. They're literally deceiving. So, like, it just wasn't good. I would take all sorts of people up there. Oh, you mean, like. Now I sound crazy. You would have to take potential catfish to Storm King because you already have the plan. No, I'm saying. Like, you go and pick her up and be like, damn, bitch, you ugly butt. I already got the zip car. Imagine that. I already made guacamole. Imagine that. Just like, oh, maybe we should go to Central Park instead. Just like rented the car to go. I don't know. I don't know. I'm feeling like I have. No, I said Papaya King. Papaya King. It's different. I think I have the flu. Maybe I should just go to Central Park and then I'm going to go to the ER at Mount Sinai. That's really. Okay. That's an interesting. But that really is an interesting because Storm King is also. kind of become a joke it's like a no lead a dirtbag joke yeah about basically like you do that you're corny this you're that but it is pretty beautiful it's a it's a very cool thing it's amazing but it has been it has been ruined by it's like going to tulum It's been ruined. Yes. Yeah. It's New York's Tulum. The infrastructure up there, too. The septic system in Storm King is also. It smells awful. You know, people are pissing and shitting. They didn't expect so much tourism. I mean, also, I mean, joking aside, when you go upstate, I'll be there in a few weeks. If you're not in one of these, if you're not at Stissinghouse, you drive 15 minutes in any direction. It is a third world country. You know what I mean? It is. There are people in the trees shooting you with guns and shit. Third world countries don't have that many opioids, Jason. You know that. They can't afford that. Have you not learned anything from the election that we just went through? Those people. Which one? Those people. Those people are not garbage. They're not living. They're just putting up fence, hanging out in the garage, talking about politics, just like we do.

And they don't have microphones because they're in real life. They're hanging out, which is cool. Coincidentally, they do have liquid death, but they're not being paid to drink it. But yeah, they have it. They buy at full price at their local market. Crazy. I thought the can look cool, man. Upstate rocks, Jason, because you're right. You can spend $35 on a head of lettuce and go right down the street and buy a liquid death for the same price you get at any major city. And that's why people live up there. I love upstate. I love the grocery trip that you do before you get to the house. Go to a big, I don't even know what the names are, but just a big, cold. Piggly Wiggly of the North. Yeah, and you just get some Oreos because it's a little tree. You get the chips. You get all sorts of chips. You cosplay. Damn, Kareem, you're bringing me back. I don't do stuff like that ever. Why not? What the hell is that? Ever? I only stay at hotels, and I don't like groups. Okay, that's cool. Both of those I 100% agree with. Our first hot take of the day. Sorry, go ahead. But now I'm recalling that feeling when I have done it sparingly as a younger man, where you do hit the grocery store in an unfamiliar town, and the cart, it's like supermarket sweep. You can't stop yourself. You're putting your arm and just sweeping it into the carriage. The nice thing is that... Like, so when I was growing up, like my parents had a budget and it was like $80 a week and they had coupons and we didn't go over that. You know what I mean? When I go to the grocery store, I do not look at a single price. Hell yeah. You said, you said mom and dad, I'm a successful creator. Fuck y'all. I said, I said, I don't care how much I can literally, I can't afford anything. There's nothing too expensive. I can afford slicing. You said my headphones hit for $600. Give me all the bores head you got, bro. Straight. You went from two episodes a week to four episodes a week, and now we don't look at price tags like we're fucking the dream. When's the last time you looked at a price tag?

I look at the price tag every time I go grocery shopping. That's because you grocery shop at Erewhon, where you might be surprised to buy $85 mushrooms. I don't buy groceries at Erewhon. Their produce is trash, even though it's expensive. No shade to Erewhon. Love you guys. Send me a hoodie. It looks cool. But I look at the price tags just because I'm an enthusiast of supermarkets and grocery stores and products and the business in general. But if I go to buy a steak and the steak is... not as cheap as I want it to be, I'm still going to buy the steak, but I will look at the price. That's unnecessary stress in my opinion. Because you're already going to buy it. I don't feel any stress. I don't feel any stress. I like to look at prices to complain about things. Like when I found out a box of Cheez-Its in Manhattan is $8. Of course I'm going to just pay the $8, but I'm shocked that it's $8. It's the cost of living in a metropolitan stronghold. But I want to be like an out-of-touch CNN anchor who doesn't know how much milk costs. That's like where I'm trying to get. And luckily for me, I couldn't tell you how much a gallon is going for it. I don't look at the price on gas. That one's always been just like, what am I going to drive five miles to the gas station where it's like three cents cheaper? I think it's crazy when the new anchors are like, everyone's complaining about the cost of milk and the cost of eggs and the cost of gas. I'm like, I know it's expensive, but are people saying it? Yeah, who are you saying that to? And how many times can you say it? What if the three of us were at dinner and we were just going on and on about prices? Everything's crazy. It's too much. But how many times can you go, man, cost of eggs, pretty fucking high. That's it. We're done. To me, it's a value thing because I don't know if the gas is good or bad. I'm just like, I put the gas in the car and it drives. This gas works perfect 100% of the time. But if I go to a restaurant and it's like this enoki mushroom, which costs a dollar at the Japanese market, is 27 in Venice Beach and it's cooked to you from an Australian surfer guy.

You're going to be like, unless this is the best enoki mushroom I've ever had in my life, this is an injustice, whereas gas always rules. You're paying for the Australian. You're not paying for the mushroom. You're paying for the Australian's visa. I want to pay for Japanese stuff, not Australian stuff, unless it's just eggs that are bitter. Bitter. Yeah, I don't go grocery shopping, though, so I don't know what that's like. Kareem, do you drive a car somewhere and load up the trunk? I'm a fan of Costco. I do drive a car to Costco. I fucking love Costco. I thought you said you were doing good. Why are you going to Costco? Well, because, dude, I got to be honest with you. Okay, Costco, I go there for liquid IV. Yeah, because you're buying so much of it. Which I am. I spent $300 on liquid IV last time I went. What's your flavor? How much alcohol do you drink, bro? It's not about the alcohol. So this is a life hack for all 30 pluses. I drink a huge jug of liquid IV. every morning and then i drink one every night and it makes me feel great i would highly recommend this to everyone so that's two a day if you're buying liquid iv at whole foods they are three dollars a pouch if you go to costco they are one dollar a pouch let me show you i literally have bags kareem i'm gonna i'm about to blow your mind there's this place called two loose bags there's a place there's a place called amazon And it's the same price as Costco, and then you don't have to rent a car to drive it to fucking Costco, bro. No, they're not. Amazon, I checked the price per unit. The price per unit at Costco is legitimately $1. And also, we forget about the pleasure of going to Costco. Have you guys been to Costco? Yes. I am proud to say... Never. And I will never set foot in a Costco. I'm an active member. I don't care if they sell Rolexes or raw milk. I ain't walking into Costco. And the oat milk, six cartons of oat milk, like little cartons that you would put in the fridge for $8. Yeah, bro. Seed oils are very cheap. Last time I went to Costco, I walked out with this fucking fire ass.

new vacuum cleaner. It was, it was like, I went to Costco for liquid IV and I, I walked out. So you impulse, you impulse purchase a fake. No, no, they had, they had a Dyson. My Dyson went to shit. It's bad now. Bad quality. I have, I have two Dysons. They both went to shit. And so I switched over to shark. Sure. Jason, we got to get on the subway, bro. This guy's had two Dysons. I've only had one. I got the big wheel. It's called the one wheel. It's like one of those skateboard decks. It's like a big one wheel in the middle. And then those electronic things. And then I got the, you know, the classic V7 that everyone, that every fuckboy in that house. Well, if my cleaning lady saw a Dyson, she'd be like, I'm out. Peace, bro. Dyson's the, Dyson's the best product for New York because it's the way it's designed. Like, the way it can go right up against the wall. Like, as far as, like, to storage is what I'm saying. Like, it's the best. Shark has the same amount. So I got the Shark Plus, which also – Shark, Shark. It's just – do you not have any respect for brands? I do. Like you can't have that. No, no, no. Shark is better. Shark is good. Shark is premium. My friend, for you, friend price, friend price. Listen, the Shark – My friend, my friend. Shark, my friend, my friend. Listen, for you, good price. My Shark has – Dyson Guts. No, no. It has this. Dyson Guts. I have to tell you about this feature. You're both really going to like it. You don't have a Dyson, the little container that takes all the dust and stuff. It's quite small, and then you have to open it and put it in the garbage. I don't use the Dyson myself, but I can imagine. He's seen it on TV. So it has a small dust waste bin. It is small. It is quite small. So the shark. has a container that you attach your vacuum to, and it sucks all the dust into a larger container so that you can just use the Dyson for two months, and then you empty out the big container once. It's really, I mean, if anyone's listening, use Shark 2020. You'll get 10% off your next Shark order. Shark 2020, was he Trump's running mate, or is this something different? Okay, so now you have a grease trap for your house's dust that lives in a closet for two months. This sounds like a great...

solution and tons of storage yeah where do you how far out do you what part of fucking crown heights or bed stye are you in you got you got so much shit in your house i don't know i don't know how you get i know this ain't manhattan you can't get that kind of space you got a supreme pinball machine i know you're doing well as a content creator but you ain't doing that well okay let's keep i live i know i live in a place that i'm happy is not on any of the maps that you would find in the meme okay community where like i i i look for my place it's not in there at all i live in a I live in a normal zone. It feels like Portland in 2018. It's very pleasant. How close to an airport is it? An hour, same as everywhere else. What's your cross street? Oh, okay. I thought you might be closer to the airport. No, no, no. You know what I mean? I'm at the very southern tip of Crossway Park. It's a little neighborhood called Windsor Terrace. Oh, yeah, I've heard of Windsor Terrace. Yeah, I've heard of Windsor Terrace. It's in between the seven. I'm sure it sounds nicer than it is, but it's a great name. No, no, it's literally, dude, I live in Connecticut, except in Brooklyn. I live in Connecticut. No, I know. I'm not actually planning my neighborhood that much. How many cars can you fit in your garage? You know, what's funny is I do have a garage. You have a garage? All right. Well, what kind of Subaru do you put in there? I put an electric Volvo in there. Damn, bro. Our boy is caked up, man. He's living in Brooklyn. He's got a Volvo. He can afford to have a child, for God's sakes. So, Kareem, it seems like the increase in money has collided at the same time as having a child. So now that you're able to start spending some ducats, it has to be on the Volvo Electric. If you were single, childless, what would that car be instead? G-Wagon. All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Quince. Jason, the temps are warming up. It's getting hot out there. Summer always changes how I get dressed. I need pieces that feel lighter, more breathable. And they're just easy but, you know, still put together. I don't want to look like a slob. That's why I keep coming back to Quince. You know, they focus on high-quality essentials that feel and look amazing. Breathable linen and soft organic cottons. Well-made basics but without the luxury markups. That rare balance where everything feels elevated.

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as your competition, if not more. So head to squarespace.com slash how long for a free trial. When you're ready to launch, use offer code how long to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or a domain. Zero hesitation. Yeah, because I've literally ever since I got there. You really are Egyptian. You mean Persian. You mean Persian. That's a Persian thing. A G-Wagon at this point is an every person thing. Egyptian is Toyota Corolla. Egyptians are cheap. I'm an outlier. But ever since I bought the electric Volvo, I've been regretting it. And I have been like, what should I like? I should be myself. You should get a car that takes gas. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Like, no, electric is dumb and they're useless. I'm not plugging my car in at night like it's like I'm just not doing that. Well, I have a car in case of emergency. So, like, God forbid there's like an earthquake or some crazy shit and I need to escape. I'm like. Hold up, grab the baby. I need to go charge the car. It's going to take 45 minutes, and then we'll go. And then on the way to wherever we're escaping, we'll have to charge several more times. You can't put energy in a little gas can and keep it by the car. Okay, so you have like a Jeep Wrangler that's ready to go off-roading in case shit goes down? No, I have nothing. That's why I've been considering terminating the lease, and I was. watching youtube videos of g wagons and they were saying that they hold their value they do they do and then i could buy like a 2002 g wagon and in 20 years it will probably just cost the same amount of money and i was like okay that's that's practical if i see if if i see one more fucking content creator with a g wagon I'm going to slam my head through a fucking wall. Are content creators driving G-Wagons? Yes. In LA, absolutely. Maybe not in New York. Well, that's also the problem with New York is that I can't look like that. I can't look.

I have to look normal. So you're not going to take the G-Wagon, park it in front of ALD, go in, get a coffee, kind of hang out all afternoon. Absolutely not. You're using it. It's utility for you. It's hard to be a man of the people when your G-Wagon is doubled up. What are all those cab drivers going to think when you pull up in the G-Wagon? You know what I mean? It's not going to be good. You're going to have to start tipping a lot more. You guys want to hear the alts? The alts are so like regular guy stuff, regular guy car. Kia Telluride, brand new 2025, or Hyundai Santa Fe, which kind of looks like a bootleg Range Rover. I drove a Honda. I drove one of those as a rental car in Charleston, South Carolina. It feels – I mean, I'm sure if you get the nice one, it's fine, but it feels like plastic. That's the problem with those cars is like you realize that that's where they get you on the price is because it feels kind of cheap, even though it looks nice. Okay, this – The step up from that, which is less conspicuous, is like a 4Runner. A different budget would be a Land Cruiser. I think those are good cars. But again, I think if you had a Land Cruiser, it's like an $80,000 car, but it's a Toyota. Just get a Mercedes or a BMW at that point. I know, an X5 or a G Elite 450. I'm not a car guy, by the way, but I've regretted my purchase so much. That you are a car guy. You've been radicalized. All it took was getting one gay-ass car, and you've been radicalized. You must have listened to too many bro podcasts. They radicalized you. Yeah, I was listening to this one too much. And that kept you from buying a fucking Ford Bronco, didn't it, sweetheart? It made me buy a fucking Volvo. This is how I made my decision. I went to one dealership, I went to Volvo, and I go... this is good enough and then i literally bought it and then i left and that's it and i did zero research and then by the time i got home i go oh man this is stupid this is really stupid this is dumb and then i have to go charge my car like a fucking cuck like who's charging that you're charging your car i'm telling you bro this stuff i'm not getting an electric car until they've until the government forces me to a hundred the door swings both ways though guys because once you get an electric car the thought of going to a stinky nasty gas station

becomes just as ridiculous and awful as charging your car. No, I love the gas station. It's real America. That's where you see people. You can get gum. That's where you see people. That's where you see people. You can clean your windshield. I mean, it's amazing there. I don't know what you're talking about. You have a guy clean your windshield. You can get a fountain soda. I know you like that, Jason. I know you like fountain sodas. But this is different. We are three straight men who are six feet tall or higher. I'm talking about the women out there. You got to go to a gas station nighttime. seedy area, it can become a real deal breaker for some people. It's interesting, Jason, because I think women can kind of take care of themselves, so I don't really see a problem here. I don't know why you're taking their power away, their agency. That's interesting, Jason, that you think that a charging station filled with 50 Uber drivers and Rebel drivers is sitting for an hour and a half on their phones. That's not what I said. I'm not talking about a charging station. On their phones, listening to Andrew Tate is safer than a gas station where you just get in and out. I'm talking about charging at your house. and then driving and then going you know where you go every day your house time to charge at home ain't nobody got that you do you charge overnight while you sleep that's what you do and then me you get let me electric cost less in the middle of the night me i'm a man of the people i'm a man of the people i charge you live in california you lived in california too long jason you're gonna get solar panels on top of your house soon too i was born here I know. That's what I'm saying. You've been radicalized. They have the sun all over the world, Chris, not just cars. No, it's not the same. It's not the same. Now, that's an idea. Why hasn't anyone just put a solar panel on top of a car or make the roof a solar panel and you just drive around all day? That does exist. The Prius has had a solar panel on it for about 10 years now, but it doesn't generate enough electricity to fully power it, but it will give you enough to keep the AC running on a long trip. Jason's just sitting on Wikipedia.

just fucking being like electric cars with solar he's trying to get he's trying to get a job with newsome to kind of work on this stuff so he's he's making his case now you you guys are saying these very absolute pieces of information as if you know what you're talking about and i'm just simply uh a justice porn you know i just you a pragmatist i hear something wrong there's nothing wrong there's nothing wrong there's nothing wrong with electric cars they're just lame it's not like there's a lot wrong with them i'm anti they don't have spare tires because it's too heavy oh it's bullshit i've had i didn't know i had i literally got a flat tire And I was like, okay, cool. I know how to change a tire because I'm a fucking man. And I opened the trunk and I go, oh, it's not in here. It must be under the car. I go, under there, there's nothing. I call the dealership. I go, hey, where's the spare? They go, oh, we don't have spares. There's no spares. Deal with it. Well, aren't tires now supposed to never go flat because the technology is so advanced that they run flat? New York City, I've had that car for nine months. I've had three flat tires. I've had to call a tow truck every time. See? Can you imagine that? Do you have AAA, Bubba? No, Volvo gives you this thing where they pick you up, but they can only drive you to a dealership. Bro, you need to get an American. You need a damn Suburban or a Yukon. Some American shit. It's durable. It's easy to park in Manhattan, too. Get one of those suburbans. I saw a friend of the show, Despot, last night. I heard some rap music blaring, and I looked over, and there was the rumble of a brand-new 911 convertible in downtown Manhattan. In November. And I was just like, damn, this is the way to do it. It ain't the practical car. Having a [redacted address] to do it. That's the coolest thing you could possibly do. Never gets over 17 miles per hour to know what he was listening to. It was some hip-hop. I told him to turn it down. It was kind of impeding my walk. You didn't shove your camera in his face and say, excuse me, sir, can I ask you what you do for a living?

How can you afford a 9-11 in the city? He's like, oh, you've never been to Time Again? It's a lot of people are there. Yeah, so what do you think about all these or your fellow TikTok creators? Don't put me in that bucket, bro. Don't put me in that bucket. Look, I'm not putting you in that bucket. The world is. I'm just repeating. Because I really like the what do you do to work out guy. Like you're so buff. What do you do? I don't know that guy. You don't know that guy? I'm on a different feed, bro. I'm not on that feed. He goes up to someone who is buff or women. That's awesome. And he's like, sorry. He'll literally go up to a guy and be like, you're so huge. What do you do to stick? That's sick. Okay, that's fire. Does he go? does he go with them no no no he he asked them what they did and then oftentimes with the women it's like some hot girl and she's like in her yoga clothes and then by the end she's like i don't drink alcohol and i'm 22 and i'm like well yeah i mean what are we still like duh i like the ones where it's older people who are still you know it's like yeah i'm 78 still have this fucking six pound you know that kind of shit is more interesting but like you said it's like well you know i just i do pull-ups and like it's all and then at the end they're like I don't drink alcohol. I've never had a carb. They just run down. Oh, you're a psychopath. Got it. That's how you have apps. You're a serial killer. But that's my favorite. But then there's the guys that ruin your life by doing the house tour, which is probably the most popular tier for me. But I just, I don't, I don't understand like what, how else are people going to see your suede door though? So you don't feel like you don't feel like you're part of that community. I don't, I don't. And I think it's maybe because I came from a comedy background and like used to do standup and kind of like make sketches. I'm sorry to hear that. I'm sorry to hear that. No, standup style. You saw me do standup once. You were the only person in the audience that laughed. Oh, that was good, yeah. You and Robbie Hoffman were saying such fucked ups. Oh, because you were the only straight male at the Susan Alexandra fashion show. Yeah, that was funny. Kareem, do you remember any jokes from that that you might be able to recount on this podcast? Yeah, I remember. I said, like, oh, who dressed Tiffany Chalamet for the Oscars or something like that? It was like a good, nice joke about how he was wearing a dress.

It didn't hit. Playing with sexuality is good. People like that stuff. I was cracking. I mean, I remember you making jokes as a straight guy, no one liking it, and then Robbie doing 12 minutes, one 12-minute abortion joke. It also didn't really go super well for that crowd. But I appreciate that. I'm glad you remember that because I was with you in solidarity. It was awesome. And I think the next day I tweeted out, like, good thing my fellow straight American. Chris Black was at the show last night because I got at least one person to laugh. But I thought it was a success. It was a successful show. And also, I don't man on the street anything. Every single person that's been on my show is like a friend or a friend of a friend. Oh, yeah, friend of a friend. Yeah, some of those guys aren't your friends. Some of those guys cut a check, and we all know what's going on. We're not stupid. Who cut the check? Oh, we don't think Tim Wall's country ass gave you a couple 20s? No, no check. I did that for the love of Minnesota. Oh, interesting. I thought you did it for democracy, but that's fine. St. Paul rocks. No, I don't do anything for democracy. Well, I think the big difference is you are pre-planning and pre-meditating these conversations with consent. Everyone knows about it versus the violation of approaching a stranger. and accosting them with weird questions. I also think my production value, I'm using two cameras that I own, like nice Sony FX3s. Okay, so walk us through this. I'm coming on Subway Takes. What am I seeing when I'm talking to you? There's two guys with iPhones or DLS? There are Sony FX3s, which are not even, they're better than DSLRs. They're cinema cameras. They can go on Netflix if I wanted to put them on Netflix. I mean, I don't mean to poo-poo, but that seems a little unnecessary to me. I don't know if you need all that. Hey, who's got the hits? That's true. Okay, so you got, all right, Puffy. All right, so you got two guys. So you're the Puff Daddy of TikTok, self-proclaimed, you were saying? Let's hit the Freak Off, baby. So you filmed all the Freak Offs in 6K, 8K, is that what it is? The Freak Off is on the sixth train, and it's you and two other guys and your guest. Is there a sound? Is there a boom operator? No, but the Freak Off is actually a Freak Off because I get like seven people to ten.

Chris, Jason, Robbie Hoffman, blee, blee, blah, Susan, meet me at noon at the West Avenue 4th train at the West 4th train. You gang tape them back to back. And we all get on together. And then there's a live audience because the people that are going to be up next are there and people are laughing. So there's two guys with cameras. There's lavaliers. That's why we hold the cards, Chris. I know you're not a tech guy. I'm telling you right now, bro, I ain't holding the card. We're going to run that shit up my shirt like a goddamn TV show. I ain't holding the card. I ain't holding the card. I'll let you hold something else. Pause. Kareem, can I stand above him with the lav mic and kind of boom it down? That would be nice. That's a good idea. Why are you not going to hold the card? I just don't like holding stuff like that. Like, I don't think that's, I don't think it's. You hold the card, you hold an L. Yeah, I don't. Well, it's better than the, like, all my favorite. You're holding it right now. You're holding something right now. This is my job. This is my job. This isn't just some promo. You're always literally holding a microphone. Well, I would say that a microphone is kind of a thing you can't avoid holding. A subway card with a microphone attached to it, there's a way to kind of circumvent. This is my favorite move. The shitty little square road, Mike, but it's to the brim of the cap, maybe. Oh, yeah, yeah. Why do people use the puffy? That's what all my chiropractors do. Oh, sick. They take it, they move it around to where the cracks are going to be. How many chirocrackers do you have? No, no, I watch them. This is my favorite kind of creator. So they move, but they'll take that mic. They're creating cracks, brother. He's a crack addict. Because it clips. So they'll clip it at the top of the back for the upper back and ribs. And then as they move down, the mic comes with them. It's like field recordings. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, it's Arthur Russell. So that's the only thing. That's the only way I see that being practical.

Attach the lavalier to an actual subway card, which also, to be clear for those not New Yorkers, those aren't in production anymore. Those are dead stock subway cards. Heads ain't got these, bro. No, no. We tapped to pay, bro. They haven't phased out yet. They're about to get phased out soon. Okay, and do you – okay, is it a Supreme one or is it just a regular one? It's just the regular joins, bro. I'm a man of the people. $290, $290 a pop. I'll bring my Supreme when I – okay, that's fine. I'll bring mine. You bring whatever you want. I'll let you – you can be the first episode. you're not holding the card that's fine that's big i'll let you do that i'll let you do that okay so so kareem so to do so you do four a week right i post like four a week yeah okay how how long does it take you to record one week's worth of of takes i'm on the train for like an hour i just jump on with the with my seven that's great my seven to ten people i knock them out and then the rest of the time i'm doing real business you know i'm standing on business ten toes down like emailing Because that's what adults do. Adults email. That's a similar business that I stand on. I can understand that. What if I told you I didn't want a studio audience? I want one-on-one. Then you'd have to pay me. Then you definitely have to pay me, because I don't want to leave my house for one. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. I understand. I didn't realize you did it that way, but that is very smart, obviously. Did you record Kamala's and Tim's together, or did you do those separate one-on-one? Together, dude. No one gets to be alone. Damn, even the fucking president. Do you think Kamala lost because she came on Subway Takes? Well, I think that she lost because she didn't do a good job. of campaigning. Other people would say it's because she's a woman or because she's a black woman. And I also think that's probably true. But I do think it's funny that I had a Times profile being written about me. The writer didn't know that this was happening. And then he came over to my house, we talked, and then I go, oh shit, I gotta go. It's been like three hours. I gotta go to Pittsburgh. Why are you going to Pittsburgh? Going to Pittsburgh to interview the potential president.

And he's like, that's crazy. And anyway, so, you know, I did it. I came back. I have a team of people who are more successful than me kind of advising me. And I'm like, yo, should I publish this? And they're like, no, because you're going to get a lot of flack. Why did Hassan say no? How do we know Hassan said no? Don't say it like that. Don't say it the right way. Don't say it like he does on his specials. Don't do that. Don't deadname him. You're not his dad. You're not his dad. Don't deadname him. I read the article and it said her initial take was bacon is a condiment and she was... Spice. Bacon's a spice. Bacon is a spice. You can put it on anything that's so good. Bacon obviously made out of pork, not super dope in the Muslim community. A lot going on in the world right now with Muslim relations. And that was an odd thing for her to say. Well, originally, so they sent me a list of takes. And Tim Walz did the gutters. I was like, weird choice, but if he feels passionately about it, let's do it. And the campaign was like, he feels very passionately about it. He loves talking about it. Of course. If you look at Tim Walls, you can tell he's passionate about gutters, if nothing else. Not the most sizzling take on planet Earth that one should maintain the cleanliness of gutters. If I'm coming on Subway Takes, I'm trying to say something that's going to get me death threats. You know what I mean? I'm not trying to say I don't like dirt. I don't understand. No, but when you're running for president and you're like, my Subway Takes is going to be about gutters, I mean. People were pretty much like, this is insane. Why is this happening? Working class. My wife has this thing where she's like, Tim Walls looks like every photo, she'll send me a photo. She's like, doesn't he look like he just ate pussy? Like, he's just coming up for air. I'm kind of failing to see it, but I kind of get it. Doesn't matter if it's true, if it's funny. She's like, look at him, he's a pussy monster. Like, he looks like he just ate pussy for an hour and a half.

Can't get enough of this stuff. And he's a generous lover. You doing good up there? You doing good up there? Awesome. So hold on. So when you're doing this, who contacts you? Like who from the team is contacting you? Do you get a DM? The DNC, no. I mean, I got a DM from the Department of State, which I thought was interesting. They were like, hey, we want to put like the ambassador of war on the show. I was like, I don't think it's a good time. I kind of actually said, I don't think it's a good time. They DM'd me. The Department of State DM'd me. But this one came in through an email. And they're like, we really think that he should come on Hot Ones. I think it would be awesome. He got caught in the blanket email. He like loves wings though. He loves wings. So no, but I guess I'm asking what member of the D like, what, what is the title of the person who reaches out to Kareem? Like director, deputy director of digital content or something. Okay. Chairman of socials. Yeah. Chairman of, so chairman Mao of socials. I'm the first lady of socials. That's what I got. And I was like, I was like, let's get on a call because it's a little complicated for me because I have an audience, you know, that sizable audience. that are like you know anti-war which i think is a general kind of like normal thing at this point so you're saying you called them and said look my audience is our trump supporters this is going to ruffle feathers is what you're saying more rfk but yeah yeah they they were like hey do you want do you want these people to be on the show and then i was like i would do it um and i was like what are the takes you know send me some takes and kamala had a good take which is that you she hates when people take their shoes off on an airplane which i 100 disagree with I was going to try to get some feet pics in there. I was going to pan down, get some feet. Like, everyone would love to see Combo's feet. I bet they're nice. Presidential feet. They're probably nice. That lady has a nice manicure. Chill, chill, chill. Mani-pedi, like, what? She keeps her shit tight. Not right now. Not right now. When's this coming out? I think it'll be the right time when this comes out. Tomorrow. Oh, perfect. Okay, that's great. It's not the right time. Chris is more of a Lily Allen guy when it comes to the feet stuff, but he'll do a little. I just can't. I can't believe that the Will.i.am song didn't help. Which one? You guys didn't?

Yes, she can. He wrote a song about a woman, but the woman was actually VP Harris. Oh, wow. And it was released three days before the election, like it was going to move any chain. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. So they send you the takes, but you had to go to Pittsburgh? They did fly me to Pittsburgh. They did fly me there. I'd never been there. Coach or first class? What airline? What section? Coach. No. She raised a million dollars in 24 hours, or a billion dollars in whatever. Bro, bro, coach. My friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, good price. She said, good price. I fly you out of your coach. I said, fine. Okay. What airline? It was probably United, too. I can't remember. I think it was, I would hope it was, I would hope it was Kelton. They should have flown Air Force 3, Air Force 7, something like that. A little smaller pun, Skipper. All right, so you fly out there. Do you stay overnight, or do you just get on a fake subway? I didn't even know. Pittsburgh had public transportation. It's on their bus, the campaign bus. Oh. So you came on the bus like a groupie hub. Start sucking. Start sucking. Well, here's the thing. So I went there the night before because I didn't want to, like, something weird to happen. So I just went the night. I didn't want to get assassinated on my way there because I went the night before. And I was like, let me explore the town. Let me see what this cool town is. Did you stay at the beautiful new Ace Hotel in Pittsburgh? Is there one? Yeah, that's not a joke. Pittsburgh is kind of having a moment. This is not a joke. They're really making a swing for it. So you showed up in Peaburg and you treated it like Storm King. You're like, I'm going to go on an adventure tonight. I highly doubt you have Pittsburgh listeners, but that town is not tight or charming. We do. We have Pittsburgh listeners. Well, I'm sorry. We love Pittsburgh. I'm sorry for the two. I'm a big steel guy. We're not huge in the Rust Belt, but we have a sizable listenership in the Rust Belt, I would say. Few but proud. So you go the night before. Do they pay for the hotel? They did pay for the hotel, but I stayed at an airport hotel. I'm not a diva. Guys, I'm happy with a bed and a pillow. If it was Gucci, yeah, put me in a nice hotel. But I'm going to Pittsburgh for one night. It's fine. It'll be fun. It'll be funny. Also, I do a lot of funny things. I'm like, this is great. I'll stay at the airport hotel. I never do that. I've never done that, actually.

Like, I'll be in Pittsburgh, never been there. Like, it's fine. Oh, of course, of course. Yeah. I didn't care about the accommodations. I was like, this is just funny. I'm just trying to get a glimpse inside the DNC's travel department. That's more what I'm... They're too busy spending money on Will.i.am music videos. And my boy's got it. My boy is talking about Volvo. My boy's got a Lambos. Yeah, Will doesn't need the money. He doesn't need the money. Will has more money than the president. And also, I don't think I would have taken money because I don't want to be. I can't buy me. I can't buy your boy. Your boy is independent. That's absolutely not true. That's absolutely not true. That is absolutely not true. There could be a price. Yeah, there's a price. Do not say that because. Someone will call your bluff, and that could be good for you. I sympathize for you because you talked about that a little bit in the article, and I felt the same way. I don't side with her 100%, but I get to tell my grandkids that I interviewed the president. That's kind of something. It's a good benchmark for your career. It heightens your profile. It opens doors. I got this flick. They flicked us up on the bus, and they won't release the flick. They took it on their phone. They said, well, send it right. We'll send it right away. And then they never released the flick. So I don't even have a freaking picture. I only have a screenshot. That's bullshit. That means they hated you that much. For sure they did. Or she looked bad in the photo. Here's the problem. They said the airplane take. I said 100%. Like, I'm excited because I disagree. I wear Berkman socks on the plane because the minute I sit down, I'm flipping those fuckers off. And you're looking at my sock. And that's fine. And then I get on the bus and I do tear. Or no. I didn't do Tim. I did Kamala first. I go, what's your take? She says, bacon is a spice. And I'm like, aha, is this a prank? Like, are you fucking with me? Are you the Borat now? Like, what is happening? And I was a little confused and I was like, tried to rip with her a little bit. And she's like, it's a spice, you know? And I'm like, okay, what do you mean by it's a spice? And she's like, you can put it on stuff. And I'm like, okay, what would you put the spice on? And she goes, well, it's not a spice. You're misunderstanding me. It's a flavor.

You just said it was a spice, not me. You said it was a spice. So you're arguing with the vice president of the United States about how to kind of qualify bacon. As a spice. Semantically. Yeah. She came with it. I don't have experience because I don't eat it. Did she seem like a robot to you? The minute the cameras turned off, she became uncool. Really? The minute the camera is turned on. When I got on, there were no cameras on. She's like dapping you up and saying, what's Gucci? And then the cameras come on and she goes, Kamala mode. Yeah, it was crazy. Because the minute I said, all right, let's shoot, it just turned into a weird... nightmare but the funniest part was that when I walked on the bus first person I saw was Tim and he was like sitting at a little table like signing papers declarations of independence as multiples and he gave me this look which was like haha we're both on the bus like he couldn't like he was like i can't believe it like he was giving me this look like i can't believe i'm here it's like yeah yeah because he's usually he's usually relegated to like the side car in a motorcycle scenario like he snuck into vip is what yeah he snuck into vip yeah i i it was a very familiar look because i was kind of like damn i can't believe i'm on this bus but then i saw him and he was like i can't believe i'm on this bus either and i was like all right i should be on this bus then And then we did the take, and then I was like, can we pause this? This is not good. I don't want to get political, even though we are political here, but this is not going to end well for anyone if we do a take about Bacon. I genuinely am trying to look out for these people. Are you saying this to Kamala, or are you saying this to a producer? I'm saying it to Kamala, and this one guy who's sitting there that's the director of strategy or whatever, and I'm like, I literally, I did the timeout with my hands. I said, timeout. I think we should do a different take. This is not a good idea. Trust me. And he just goes, no, we're doing bacon. And I go, can we please do the shoes thing? It's so much better. He goes, no, we're doing bacon. I go, fine. I go, okay, what else do you got? And then she gets into anchovies on pizza. It's amazing. And I just, I let her cook for like 30 seconds. And I go, all right, bring out Tim. I was really disappointed.

And then Tim comes in with fucking Doritos and a Diet Coke, sits down. We talk about Minnesota for a bit. Juicy Lucy's. It was great. And then he just rips the take. I go, great. I leave. Two hours later, I get a call from the campaign from someone else. They sent a token Muslim. And they go, how'd it go? I go, well, they talked about bacon, so I don't think it went that well. And then she goes, oh, my God. that's really a big problem and i go tell me about it and then i get a call to go we can't release anything with vega and i go well what the fuck why did i fly well like why did i come here like i'm like i agree with you but this suck and and then i was like let me try to make it work so i i did a cut where i was like i tried to make it work it was gonna make her not look good for sure because it's me being like right lady let's discuss something else, please. And that would have been huge for you. Yeah, it would have, it would have. But then I was like, you know what? Let me just publish Tim. And then I published him. And then I was like, I'm not going to publish this, but I will tell the story to the person that's talking to me at the times. And that's it. And then I just let it, I still have the footage. If you guys want to, I'll just be selling. I don't care. I'll be selling. Wait, should I set up a web? Should I set up? I should set up a website. Cause the right, the right, the conservative media is like, The headlines are hilarious. It's like Muslim influencer offended by Kamala's bacon take. And it's like just simply not true. But like the post is like, you know, it's just so funny that they like have spun the story into like I'm offended by the take. And that's why I didn't publish. So do you think you have do you have enemies in the DNC now? Oh, for sure. Unfortunately, yes. So you're the op. You're a marked man. I'm 100% marked. You made the difficult decision as a content creator. I just interviewed the potential president, and I'm going to scrap it. And that was probably a hard decision. And then as soon as she lost, you were probably so happy, right? Your parlay came in. No. But I want to publish it now and just say I didn't want to sway the election.

you should as a caption as a caption did anybody from the rnc approach you unfortunately not i was ready to have i know you love to i know you love to platform people so i didn't know if you were gonna if you were gonna kind of platform them on the platform subway job yeah yeah if you get jd vance in the light on the train you guys you guys you have a voice and you have a platform please use it responsibly Okay? No. We've never had Tucker Carlson on this podcast, and we don't plan to. Surprisingly. No, just because I look like him doesn't mean that I want to talk to him. Do you think we're Republican? No, I think you're just guys. That's fair. Just guys. No, I just don't find... Wait, wait, the DNC didn't hit you up? No. Because I know a lot of podcasters who you would expect to have said yes. And they all said no. Drop some names. I'm not dropping names. I'm not dropping names. How about this? Imagine you guys, but gay. And they said no. Bowen Yang said no to something to the DNC. I will neither. I figured he'd be down putting that dick in his mouth. I will neither confirm nor deny. But there are many podcasters that say I'm not getting involved. Oh, I'll get involved. I'm going to get involved if it's like Tim Walls seems like he'd actually be pretty funny. Like he would be like a funny guy for us to talk to. If you can get him and not eating pussy, yeah. But I don't want to talk to, I don't give a shit. I mean, politicians are just like boring liars. They're not good podcasts. You know what I mean? That's the other thing. But what about RFK Jr.? I can't understand what he talks. If we had a translator, I think he's got a great mind. He's really thinking about a lot of stuff. Thinking about a lot of stuff. He's just unable to convey those words morally. All those people are idiots, and I don't want to talk to them, but I also think it's tough to... Even with my GQ newsletter, I ended up talking about politics because it was the only thing happening. It was so big and so popular that it's hard not to be part of the conversation or participate in some way when you have to talk. Politics are so big and so popular. That's what you just said. Because it was. What do you mean it was?

politics because it's not it's not when it's an election cycle it is and when it's the interest in politics i think goes up and down it does yeah that's what i mean but we were talking about this in the intro like all these like guys that have been you know quote unquote radicalized by aiden ross and fucking joe rogan like are they going to care two years from now in the middle of a trump presidency where it's just like same old same old I don't know if they'll care as much. I think they cared when it was an us versus them. There's a battle to win, but I think on a day-to-day basis, people just don't care. Without Larry Bird, there is no Jordan. Without Larry David, there is no Seinfeld. Speaking of losers. A couple more questions at the end here, Kareem. Chris talked about this earlier. When was the last time you heard an actual hot take? When people sing happy birthday at the restaurant, I mean like an incendiary thing that could end a friendship maybe. Yesterday. Oh, really? But was it good for the show? I don't think I can put it on the show. Can you talk to us about it? Is this someone you know? No, it's someone that pitched me the idea, and I said, I'll think about it. We don't have to say who it was, but we can say that blackface is not that offensive and that people and that people and that people like if done well, it should be celebrated if it's not like making fun. And I was like, well, you don't understand the history of blackface is that. like rooted in like minstrel shows and like yeah yeah that's not there's no way to spin that well he was like well now with the makeup technology and stuff like you could do awesome blackface and i was like i i just i think that this is not a good take for the show so how did you let red scare down I hope you I hope you're nice about it. But you don't you don't like in a situation like that. Are you going to tell them like, bro, that was too much or are you just going to just never put it up? No, I mean, this person like stopped me on the street and it was like I have like I'm auditioning. But this is a person that is a known quantity. This is someone who does.

something professional no no no this is just a person oh this is just a regular i was just a stranger stranger okay he was like i'm gonna shoot my shot like i love your show like i have a really spicy take and that's what he called it he said i have a really spicy take i said all right shoot hit me with it and then he said that and i was like i think that that's not good okay follow-up question kareem what if the person who had that take was black themselves interesting question Robert Downey Jr., you mean? Tropic Thunder Mode. Don't drag Downey into this. I probably would let them on. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. I mean, if Michael Che had that take, I would listen to that all day long. Come on, Michael Che's never done anything funny. You know that. Well, he went to Harvard, dude. He went to Harvard. Yeah, a lot of funny people went to Harvard, but I don't... I do think that he would have been able to tie it in a nice bow where it's like, ha-ha. No, of course. Of course. Yeah, definitely. I mean, he's a professional. Come on, and I would have been like, I just still disagree with you, and I don't know why I gave you this opportunity. It's the blessing and the curse of a hot take because, I mean, that's what I like about a really hot take like that. Like, obviously, I disagree with that. I think that... Wearing blackface is a very bad thing, not just a little bit bad. But, you know, arguing those those things, debating something like that is actually interesting because you're sort of mining new ground for discussion versus, you know, I think that you shouldn't put ranch on the pizza. It doesn't really get me that excited because I've already heard that discussion my entire life. Wait till I wait till I blow it up with Frank Ocean sucks. That's going to get you're going to get you're going to get you're. You're going to get fucked up on that. That's the take? The take is Frank Ocean is our generation's most overrated musician. That's great. Come on, baby. Let's go. Let's go. So I will have to probably fuck most. The most overrated? Yeah, kind of. Yeah. And you've heard Chapel Rhone? Chapel Rhone has hits and Frank Ocean doesn't. That's just the reality. You're a hit queen. I fuck with Chapel Rhone. She's thick. If you were to say one of our generation's most overrated talents, I would 100% agree. I just think that the package and the mystique and the aura is much, much more interesting and better than the music. Yeah. The music is secondary.

And that's a problem for me. Sounds like you've never really been in your feelings before. I feel like when The Weeknd and Frank Ocean both came out at the same time, and they both played Coachella, I think it was 2011 or 2012. I was like, Frank Ocean sucks, and The Weeknd is sick. It's funny you say that, because that's the only time when Frank Ocean was good, is like Channel Orange, when he made actual songs. I disagree. I think Channel Orange is stupid, and I like Blonde a lot more. Blonde is background music for white creative directors with two monitors, Jason. That's what it is. That's me, bitch. That's what it is. Do either of you have that long monitor, that long boy? No, I know what you're talking about. What's the curve? Should it look like the sphere? The curve? Every time I go to Costco, I eye it. And I'm like, hmm, that could be so sick. Well, Kareem, Christmas is coming up soon. Maybe Christmas? For myself? Just buy it for myself? You tell Santa. Santa gives you the 32-inch, baby. Maybe I will tell Santa. I told you, I have a friend who will go unnamed, but he told his wife, because it's all his money, like, I don't want a gift that costs less than $25,000 for Christmas. And so she was like, okay, shit, fine. And that's what it is. And that's how it operates. I think you could do something, maybe not that monetary level, but something similar. That's a good idea. Maybe he should get a Volvo C40 electric. You know a lease that he could buy out? I know a lease. The problem with Volvo is that they don't allow... That. They don't allow you to swap. No, Volvos are hard to get, too. They don't make it easy, so you must have good credit. Great credit. All right, Kareem. Thank you for joining us. I got that air of credit. Wait, one last question. Yeah. What was it like building with the Rizzler? How did your life change? Oh, God. How can I forget about that little Coke head? What do you smell like? Et cetera. Just call him a little Coke head. He's on Coke, bro. He's on Coke. Well, Kareem, like a week ago, Chris and I had a discussion about him.

And I don't want to talk about him anymore because we've talked about him too much. But Chris legitimately, like, he thought it could have been an Andy Milonakis situation where he literally thought that the Rizzler could have been 30 years old. I really didn't know. I thought the Rizzler. And I told him that he was seven after Googling him, and he was like, oh, shit. Changes everything. That's so funny. But there's a photo of you with him at, like, a New York basketball court, and you're wearing, you know, like Steve Jobs looking clothes, and he's got glasses on. He could be 30, you know? He could be 30. That's so funny. No, bro's eight, but honestly, he's so tight. He's honestly so tight. I went into a skeptical, I really did, and I met him. It's like meeting the Dalai Lama. Like, it was so sick. I was like, man, this dude, the vibe, I've never been around a vibe like that. I truly, truly, truly think that he's maybe... gonna save the world. Like, he's so thick for being an eight-year-old. He's like a thick Forrest Gump. He doesn't, like, he's just so tight. This is good. His soul is pure of heart. You can't explain... You can't explain it. It's honestly, I'm not even being facetious. He's like a Krishna god. No, he's got a je ne sais quoi that leads to fame. That's the thing that most people don't have. Young people call it aura nowadays. He's got riz, bro. He's got riz. I'm sorry. They actually call it riz. He might have the highest riz meter in the game, like ever. like it was wow that makes me happy to hear me he walked on he walked onto that bat so i was like creative directing a funny commercial uh for this company called air and and and he walked on set with a pot like a mob like he was mobbed up like he was like an asap like he was like he was mobbed up dad a couple others hangers honors Maybe like the bodyguard kind of guy. He had his turtle. He had his E. He had his drama. Did he have a chick with him, or he was rolling solo? He was rolling solo, but I did see him. Sexy Red was there. I don't know why. All right, there were no video chicks. Just making sure. I saw him rizz up a girl. I saw him rizz up a girl that walked past. I was like, oh. An adult woman. Yeah, and it was so fire. I was like, damn. Do you think the Rizzler is having sex?

No, I don't think he can get on the bed. Rizzler liked to do it on the flow. He was pretty athletic. We were running laps and he was keeping up. He can move. Little guy can move. I swear I wake up every day and I'm like, damn, I miss that. I miss being on set with Rizzler. Did the Rizzler have a wet jumper? Did you see any? Buckets. Buckets. Touch the ball? Like the hand of God. Okay. He's hitting the threes. Okay. I could talk about it. I don't want this to end. You can't end on that because I want to keep talking about the Rizzler. He's so tired. We can't. We have to ban. There's several things I've banned from this podcast. Ghia, the Rizzler. There's several things we don't talk about. Frog Club. Yeah. Frog Club. There's things we just cannot talk about anymore. The Rizzler. Now that we've had a. first-hand encounter told to us, the Rizzler can die as far as how long it goes. No, never say that. No, I don't mean the topic. I don't mean the name. No, no, no. You can try, Chris, you can try and get to him. I wish you luck. But I'm afraid the Rizzler, I wouldn't bring my wife around the Rizzler. It sounds like Mr. Steeler Girl. Dude, he'd really... It sounds like the Rizz is no joke. Have your chick showing up, no panties on. I was more starstruck than I was with Kamala. Definitely. That man is incredible. That boy? That's fine. Whatever you want to say, you fucking creep. Kareem, thank you for joining us. Thank you guys so much. This is Overdue. Congratulations on your success. I'm very happy for you, and I think it's great what you do. Thank you, guys. It stands out for a reason. So we appreciate you, and we'll see you soon. Could you stand up back around? It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you so much for having me. All right. We'll see you soon, bro. Yeah, dog. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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